Linux-Misc Digest #10, Volume #24 Fri, 31 Mar 00 16:13:06 EST
Contents:
Re: RedHat vs. Mandrake? (aflinsch)
Re: VI and ASCII Question ? (Lew Pitcher)
Gnome PPP setup utility ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: loadlin (Duane Evenson)
Re: redirecting output question (Dallas Times)
Re: Modem problem (Lou Hevly)
NFS as modules ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
NFS as modules ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
NFS as modules ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Setting up a second printer with a PCI Parallel Port Card, ... (Yan Seiner)
Re: SCSI and IDE disk problems (Yan Seiner)
Re: Linux GUI query (Grant Edwards)
Re: Applixware or StarOffice (Grant Edwards)
How to unzip .exe Files under Linux? (Tobias Freitag)
Re: Does SuSE-linux or FreeBSD supports Turtle Beach sound card? ("Alex Lam.")
Re: Partition disappeared? (Michael Kelly)
Re: How to unzip .exe Files under Linux? (JackStraw)
Reading Amiga filesystem in Linux? ("mark")
Re: A really quick one ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: How to unzip .exe Files under Linux? (Vilmos Soti)
Re: Linux/Unix What is the difference? (Grant Edwards)
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From: aflinsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RedHat vs. Mandrake?
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 13:59:36 -0600
Bill Delphenich wrote:
>
> Richard Steiner wrote:
>
> > >How is Mandrake different from RedHat? They seem so similar; there must
> > >be a basic difference in emphasis somewhere but its not obvious to me.
> >
> > Which versions? Earlier versions were basically Red Hat with KDE and
> > some other stuff added. Later versions have a completely different
> > installation routine and update tools than Red Hat does.
>
> I'm looking at the current shipping versions of each; v6.2 for RedHat and
> v7.0 for Mandrake, I believe. I'm especially interested in whether postfix
> is installed as the default mailer in Mandrake.
>
postfix is the default in Mandrake 6.1 & 7.0. sendmail was used in
Mandrake 6.0
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lew Pitcher)
Subject: Re: VI and ASCII Question ?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 19:16:51 GMT
On Thu, 30 Mar 2000 20:05:23 -0500, Dale Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Hi,
> Im using SuSE Linux 6.2 with Vim ( improved vi or vi improved) and I
>am trying to edit
> a plain text file that has the ascii symols for a box in it,
> ascii # 218 - ascii# 196- ascii#191
> ascii# 179 ascii#179
> ascii#192 - ascii#196 - ascii#217
Not to be pedantic, but ASCII _does not_ contain characters with byte
values above 127. What you have is one of the many characterset
variants that encorporate ASCII into the bottom 128 bytes of the
codeset.
> but I can't figure how to enter these non-keyboard symbols into my
>text file with the
> Vi editor. I look through the help file and keep reading about the
> - insert - mode, but I can't get it to work for me.
>
> Any help on this would be much appreciated .
>
>Dale
>
Lew Pitcher
System Consultant
Toronto Dominion Financial Group
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
(Opinions expressed are my own, not my employer's.)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Gnome PPP setup utility
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 19:15:07 GMT
I tried setting up my IP dialup using Gnome's PPP GUI utility, but when
I dial in DNS isn't working.
I can ping my DNS servers by IP, but name lookups fail, so things like
Netscape are hosed.
Is this a bug with the tool, or am I not doing something right?
Thanks,
Mike Cico
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From: Duane Evenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: loadlin
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 12:05:47 -0700
Where you place LILO has nothing to do with where you place your Linux
partition. Linux could be anywhere on your first two drives -- and this really
only applies to your partition with /boot -- the rest could be anywhere else.
If your partition starts before the 1024 cylinder limit, put a small (5-10MB)
/boot partition on under the limit.
If your Linux partition begins past the 1024 cylinder limit, you must use
loadlin.
Unzip loadlin to a DOS directory. Copy vmlinuz to a DOS directory. Loadlin
uses DOS routines so it doesn't matter where the file is physically on the
system. Loadlin will use vmlinuz to place an image in memory then start it and
dump DOS.
I have a linux.bat file with the following line:
@c:\loadlin\loadlin c:\loadlin\vmlinuz root=/dev/hda2 ro
You may want to use this as a template.
noel wrote:
> I have already installed mandrake to my computer, but I had to put the
> partition at the end of the hard disk, over the limit to be able to put
> LiLo in the MBR. At the moment, I am booting in to linux from a boot disk.
> Am I able to boot to linux using loadlin.exe if I can't write LiLo to the
> MBR and if so, how do I do it?
>
> --
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> http://www.help.com/
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From: Dallas Times <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: redirecting output question
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 13:27:04 -0800
Try:
{script name} >`date +%D`
The "`" (underneath the tilde) tells the shell to spawn another shell, run
the command then use the output of the spawned shell as the input.
You might optionally try using 2 right-arrows
{script name} >>`date +%D`
for append (it creates the file if it doesn't exist) unless you really want
to overwrite the previous file if it exists.
- Ken
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lou Hevly)
Subject: Re: Modem problem
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 20:03:21 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt) wrote:
>On Thu, 30 Mar 2000 10:15:29 GMT, Lou Hevly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>When I hit pppd, Linux doesn't seem to find my modem; at least I hear
>>no dialing.
<snip>
>tty1 is a console. I don't think that would work for pppd.
>Try /dev/ttyS1 if your modem is on Com2.
Thanks for your response. You're right, of course. I've also been
greatly helped by W.G. Unruh's tutorial at
http://axion.physics.ubc.ca/ppp-linux.html (thanks to Bill Staehle for
steering me to it).
--
Lou Hevly
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.visca.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: NFS as modules
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 20:10:13 GMT
I'm trying to compile NFS as a module into a 2.2.14 kernel.
(redhat 6.1)
insmod lockd
says
unresolved symbol do_lockdctl
I can't find much info where do_lockdctl is defined... it's
just extern everywhere.
How can I make this work?
Regards,
T
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: NFS as modules
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 20:11:31 GMT
I'm trying to compile NFS as a module into a 2.2.14 kernel.
(redhat 6.1)
insmod lockd
says
unresolved symbol do_lockdctl
I can't find much info where do_lockdctl is defined... it's
just extern everywhere.
How can I make this work?
Regards,
T
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: NFS as modules
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 20:13:48 GMT
I'm trying to compile NFS as a module into a 2.2.14 kernel.
(redhat 6.1)
insmod lockd
says
unresolved symbol do_lockdctl
I can't find much info where do_lockdctl is defined... it's
just extern everywhere.
How can I make this work?
Regards,
T
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From: Yan Seiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Setting up a second printer with a PCI Parallel Port Card, ...
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 14:23:48 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Right. I put it in there because if you happen to use modules, your
config set with tunelp will get lost....
--Yan
David Efflandt wrote:
>
> On Thu, 30 Mar 2000, Yan Seiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc
> >options parport_pc io=0x3bc,0x378,0x278 irq=7,none,none
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^
> >change to suit
> >
> >--Yan
>
> Actually you don't even need that second line at all unless you are going
> to be setting an IRQ with tunelp. Otherwise lpd just polls all ports and
> doesn't even use any IRQs for printing. Use tunelp with the -s switch to
> check status:
>
> # tunelp /dev/lp0 -s
> /dev/lp0 status is 15, busy, ready
> # tunelp /dev/lp1 -s
> /dev/lp1 status is 120, busy, out of paper, on-line
> # tunelp /dev/lp2 -s
> /dev/lp2: Device not configured
>
> lp0 is sleeping HP4L, lp1 PCI card (no printer), lp2 does not exist
>
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From: Yan Seiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: SCSI and IDE disk problems
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 14:21:31 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
No. The errors are on the original scsi drive; when you copied the data
you also copied the errors. I don't have any tech knowledge of this; I
speak form (fortuantely limited) experience.
--Yan
"Knut A. Nilsen" wrote:
>
> ..all three? At the same time? Anything special that could cause such
> failures? I mean, the second ide drive, /dev/hdc, is brand new. The scsi
> drive is about 6 months old, while the first ide drive is more than 2 years
> old. Why would they die the same day?
>
> Knut
>
> Yan Seiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > The drive is toast. Replace it immediately.
> >
> > --yan
> >
> > "Knut A. Nilsen" wrote:
> > >
> > > About 6 months ago I installed a new Seagate Barracuda ST39175LW 9,1 Gb
> SCSI
> > > disk on a small fileserver. The disk has one partition taking up the
> entire
> > > disk, most of which is 'shared' to Windows clients using Samba (2.0.5a).
> The
> > > system has been running happily until yesterday, when I discovered that
> > > files and directories were missing over the samba share. Trying to list
> the
> > > files in linux gave me IO errors. Unmounting the drive and running
> e2fsck
> > > gave the following output:
> > >
> > > Error reading block XXX (Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted
> in
> > > short read) while doing inode scan. Ignore error<y>?
> > >
> > > Ignoring the error would give me more messages like this. Running
> e2fsck -c
> > > caused the scsi bus to attempt to reset several times. Finally, after
> > > several hours of errors, SCSI bus reset attempts etc etc, rebooted the
> > > machine, unmounted the drive and ran e2fsck -c, which now seamed to
> work.
> > > The disk is up and running again with no new error messages...
> > >
> > > /var/log/messages:
> > > Mar 29 12:29:01 arthur kernel: SCSI disk error : host 0 channel 0 id 0
> lun 0
> > > return code = 28000002
> > > Mar 29 12:29:01 arthur kernel: [valid=0] Info fld=0x0, Current sd08:01:
> > > sense key Not Ready
> > > Mar 29 12:29:01 arthur kernel: Additional sense indicates Logical unit
> is in
> > > process of becoming ready
> > > Mar 29 12:29:01 arthur kernel: scsidisk I/O error: dev 08:01, sector
> 8536140
> > > Mar 29 12:29:01 arthur kernel: EXT2-fs error (device sd(8,1)):
> > > ext2_write_inode: unable to read inode block - inode=1067
> > > 010, block=4268070
> > > Mar 29 12:29:06 arthur kernel: SCSI disk error : host 0 channel 0 id 0
> lun 0
> > > return code = 28000002
> > > Mar 29 12:29:06 arthur kernel: [valid=0] Info fld=0x0, Current sd08:01:
> > > sense key Not Ready
> > > Mar 29 12:29:06 arthur kernel: Additional sense indicates Logical unit
> is in
> > > process of becoming ready
> > > Mar 29 12:29:06 arthur kernel: scsidisk I/O error: dev 08:01, sector 2
> > > Mar 29 12:30:03 arthur kernel: (scsi0:0:0:-1) Unexpected busfree,
> LASTPHASE
> > > = 0x40, SEQADDR = 0x5f
> > > Mar 29 12:30:07 arthur kernel: SCSI disk error : host 0 channel 0 id 0
> lun 0
> > > return code = 28000002
> > > Mar 29 12:30:07 arthur kernel: [valid=0] Info fld=0x0, Current sd08:01:
> > > sense key Not Ready
> > > Mar 29 12:30:07 arthur kernel: Additional sense indicates Logical unit
> is in
> > > process of becoming ready
> > > Mar 29 12:30:07 arthur kernel: scsidisk I/O error: dev 08:01, sector
> 983962
> > > Mar 29 12:30:07 arthur kernel: SCSI disk error : host 0 channel 0 id 0
> lun 0
> > > return code = 28000002
> > >
> > > (same message repeated a _lot: of times)
> > >
> > > Mar 29 12:36:11 arthur kernel: scsi0 channel 0 : resetting for second
> half
> > > of retries.
> > > Mar 29 12:36:11 arthur kernel: SCSI bus is being reset for host 0
> channel 0.
> > > Mar 29 12:36:14 arthur kernel: SCSI disk error : host 0 channel 0 id 0
> lun 0
> > > return code = 28000002
> > > Mar 29 12:36:14 arthur kernel: [valid=0] Info fld=0x0, Current sd08:01:
> > > sense key Not Ready
> > > Mar 29 12:36:14 arthur kernel: Additional sense indicates Logical unit
> is in
> > > process of becoming ready
> > > Mar 29 12:36:14 arthur kernel: scsidisk I/O error: dev 08:01, sector
> 2883722
> > >
> > > Can anyone explain this behaviour?
> > >
> > > Now, for chapter two:
> > >
> > > In 'panic', while I was fsck'ing the SCSI drive, I went an bought a
> second
> > > 10GB IDE drive, to backup my disk in case I needed to try some extensive
> > > data recovery. I makde this dosk inot one big partition also
> (/dev/hdc1).
> > > Running mke2fs, /var/log/messages is filled with this kind of errors:
> > >
> > > Mar 30 11:27:44 arthur kernel: hdc: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady
> > > SeekComplete Error }
> > > Mar 30 11:27:44 arthur kernel: hdc: dma_intr: error=0x10
> > > { SectorIdNotFound }, CHS=770/0/137, sector=197074
> > > Mar 30 11:28:02 arthur kernel: hdc: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady
> > > SeekComplete Error }
> > > Mar 30 11:28:02 arthur kernel: hdc: dma_intr: error=0x10
> > > { SectorIdNotFound }, CHS=1666/0/79, sector=426450
> > > Mar 30 11:28:21 arthur kernel: hdc: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady
> > > SeekComplete Error }
> > > Mar 30 11:28:21 arthur kernel: hdc: dma_intr: error=0x10
> > > { SectorIdNotFound }, CHS=3650/0/23, sector=934354
> > > Mar 30 11:28:22 arthur kernel: hdc: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady
> > > SeekComplete Error }
> > > Mar 30 11:28:22 arthur kernel: hdc: dma_intr: error=0x10
> > > { SectorIdNotFound }, CHS=3650/0/22, sector=934354
> > >
> > > ..and runing e2fsck on this disk gives:
> > >
> > > Error reading block 3358818 (Attempt to read block from filesystem
> resulted
> > > in short read) while doing inode scan. Ignore error<y>?
> > >
> > > ...which is the same message I got on the SCSI disk in the first place!
> > >
> > > Which means that I can't get my brand new 10 GB drive to work at all.
> The
> > > drive is an IBM DTTA-371010 CHS=19590/16/63
> > >
> > > On top of this, as I am writing this post, I see that I get the same
> error
> > > messages on /dev/hda and IO errors as I am parsing through
> /var/log/messages
> > > to copy the error messages. This disk is an IBM DTTA-350640
> CHS=790/255/63
> > >
> > > This is beginning to become frustrating! Any ideas, anyone?
> > >
> > > Knut Nilsen
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From: grant@nowhere. (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: Linux GUI query
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 20:23:41 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Harvey Taylor wrote:
> A better phrasing of my question would be --- it seems like
> one has a choice of X or X, with whatever flavour window managers;
> are there any alternatives to X11 variants?
There are (eg. MGR), but most of the apps run under X.
Don't know what "gamers" use, I don't play computer games.
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at and DIAGRAMS...
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From: grant@nowhere. (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: Applixware or StarOffice
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 20:27:28 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Student Labs wrote:
>Which is better in the following categories:
12) Licensing
Does Applix still do obnoxious, lame, evil, annoying,
resource-sucking node-locked licensing? Or was that particular
living hell reserved exclusivly for people who paid $400 per
copy for the Solaris version?
Not that I'm still bitter over that little lapse in judgement
on my part (buying SW with a node-locked license, that is.)
--
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at
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From: Tobias Freitag <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to unzip .exe Files under Linux?
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 20:30:10 GMT
Sometimes I've got to download compressed archives that are Win32
executables, because there are no .zip or even .tar.gz available.
Is there a way to extract such archives under Linux?
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From: "Alex Lam." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Does SuSE-linux or FreeBSD supports Turtle Beach sound card?
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 13:50:43 -0800
"J. C." wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Alex Lam." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> :
> : Can't find info on SuSE's hardware db. Does anybody knows if ALSA
> : or OSS supports Turtle Beach sound card? If it does, which model?
> :
> : Linux kernel 2.2.x, or FreeBSD 3.3. (I bought the official SuSE 6.3
> : CD set, I believe the ALSA is in there and paid for.)
>
> <http://www.alsa-project.org/src/soundcards.html>
> The ALSA site has a list of supported cards; the Turtle Beach Wavefront
> is supported, but not (unfortunately) my old Multisound Classic, which
> cannot be run under the 2.3.x kernels.
> --
thx.
Alex Lam.
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From: Michael Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Partition disappeared?
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 15:31:17 -0500
On Fri, 31 Mar 2000 18:41:21 GMT, "Jordan Hiller"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I can't seem to unmount it either
You can't unmount / since you are using it.
You have to boot a floppy. At the boot:
prompt do
mount root=/dev/hd??? whatever partition your Linux / is installed on
Then you should be able to copy your backup file or do whatever
else you need. If it tries to do multi-user stuff and you get all
kinds of errors, then boot a rescue disk instead and mount the
parition under /mnt or /tmp
Then you can edit and copy files.. whatever
Mike
--
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-- Groucho Marx
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From: JackStraw <jack.straw@witchita>
Subject: Re: How to unzip .exe Files under Linux?
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 15:48:50 -0500
Tobias Freitag:
>Sometimes I've got to download compressed archives that are Win32
>executables, because there are no .zip or even .tar.gz available.
>
>Is there a way to extract such archives under Linux?
I haven't had the need to try it, but you might try:
'wine zipfile.exe'
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From: "mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Reading Amiga filesystem in Linux?
Date: 31 Mar 2000 20:24:41 +0000
Hi,
I have an Amiga hard disk but unfortunately no longer have my Amiga..
I've heard that Linux can read the Amiga FFS filesystem, but I haven't a
clue how to.. can Linux read it as standard or do I need to download
stuff? I'm running Suse 6.2 if that makes any difference.
Thanks,
Mark
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: A really quick one
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 21:01:37 GMT
And verily, didst kev hastily scribble thusly:
> Hi,
> I've done this loads before, but for the life of me I can't remember
> fully the correct command now.
> I want to kill telnet and ftp on my machine. I have edited the file
> /etc/inetd.conf and commented out the telnet and ftp lines. It's the
> next step I can't quite remember. I tried 'killall -HUP inetd' but that
> didn't work. What am I missing?
/sbin/init.d/inetd restart
(In SuSE at least...)
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Subject: Re: How to unzip .exe Files under Linux?
From: Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 21:07:36 GMT
Tobias Freitag <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Sometimes I've got to download compressed archives that are Win32
> executables, because there are no .zip or even .tar.gz available.
I am not sure, but cannot you just
unzip file.exe
You need the unzip program which is possibly already installed for you.
Vilmos
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From: grant@nowhere. (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: Linux/Unix What is the difference?
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 21:09:47 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Christopher Browne wrote:
>>>> UNIX is a *trademark* of Bell Labs/AT&T/Lucent.
>>>
>>>I thought they sold it to Novell who then sold it to SCO.
>>
>>I think the order is wrong. I think it was SCO then Novell. Last I heard,
>>the Unix trademark ended up as the property of some consortium or other.
>>(X-Open?)
>
>Novell transferred ownership to UNIX System Laboratories, who were then
>acquired by SCO, who have since transferred the trademark to The Open
>Group.
OK, that sounds about right.
>> (Does that last sentance parse?)
>
>I think it parses better if it's spelled "sentence" :-).
Yea, I noticed that a split second too late. Silly
spell-checker doesn't pay much attention to context.
>In order to call a particular product UNIX, you
>have to:
>b) Pay a fee for every license issued. Which means that
> "Linux, the New Unix", would no longer be able to be free.
So how do SCO and Sun get away with giving away free copies of
their versions of "Unix" (I assume their both still officially
"Unix")? I know they've got deep pockets, but it's hard to
imagine that they're actually paying a license fee everytime
somebody installs a free copy of Sun Solaris SCO
OpenServerUnixDesktopWare (or whatever they're peddling this
week.)
>There's still another problem: UNIX certification mandates
>including STREAMS functionality, which is not part of any
>official Linux kernel.
There is STREAMS for Linux, and presumably somebody could that
that combo certified (assuming it passes the tests).
But to paraphrase Bill:
"Linux: more Unix that Unix."
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