Linux-Misc Digest #10, Volume #26 Thu, 12 Oct 00 09:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Best way to backup? (John Thompson)
Re: RedHat 7.0 rpm's on RedHat 6.1? (Michael McConnell)
Re: napster client without gui (Arnaud Kok)
Re: apt-get with rpm? (John Hasler)
Re: How do I install Win95 without stuffing up my MBR? (Eric)
Re: word docs 2 ps/pdf (Eric)
Re: End-User Alternative to Windows ("David Fulton")
Re: word docs 2 ps/pdf ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Netscape 4.75 thinks it's on a Mac ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Using the dos version of dd... (Little Paul)
url for gtksee? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Video Out Signal, which card? (Peter Huetmannsberger)
Help: xcalendar problems from start go ("Jonathan Gift")
Re: Using the dos version of dd... (Martin Herrman)
Elsa Microlink USB + KPPP (root)
Re: word docs 2 ps/pdf (Joachim Feise)
Financial software ~ Quickbooks Pro ~ Linux? (Brett Randall)
Re: url for gtksee? (Eric)
Re: RedHat 7.0 rpm's on RedHat 6.1? (Villy Kruse)
Re: Why doesn't rm -R *.obj work? (-ljl-)
Re: Netscape 4.75 thinks it's on a Mac (Rick Pasotto)
Re: net2phone for linux? (Edwin Johnson)
many distributions.... ("nybblex")
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Best way to backup?
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 20:48:33 -0500
Eric wrote:
> E J wrote:
> >
> > For usual backup, I use tar and copy the tarball onto CD.
> > tar cvfz /backup/some_backup.tar.gz /some_directory_under_root
> > or
> > tar cvf /bakcup/some_backup.tar /some_directory_under_root
> > gzip /backup/some_backup.tar
> >
> > Some things to note: tar can only handle upto 2 G files (the problem is
> > with ext2)
> Not True, the problem is with the intel architecture, which is a 32 bit
> platform (use lfs (IIRC) to circumvent the problems with this) You may
> need to recompile a lot of tools if you want to make this work correctly
This appears to be a filesystem problem, as tar seems to write
archives >2GB to tape devices without problems.
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael McConnell)
Subject: Re: RedHat 7.0 rpm's on RedHat 6.1?
Date: 12 Oct 2000 09:39:01 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rafael) wrote in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>I have installed RedHAt 6.1 (gentus). I want install new packages from
>RedHat 7.0. WIll it work, I can not do upgrade because RedHAt
>installation do not recognize my third ide controler.
The binary ones will more than likely not work (different glibc version).
Your best bet is to get the source RPMs and recompile.
-- Michael
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From: Arnaud Kok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: napster client without gui
Date: 12 Oct 2000 10:03:48 GMT
Jaap Brink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi, I wanted to know if anybody knows of a napster client without a gui? I
> have seen snap but have no experience with it. I'd like to serve some
> mp3's but would like a simple program running in the background that
> doesn't require a gui. The machine I'll be using has a limited amount of
> memory.
> TIA
Ik use nap. A simple text interface napster client. You can find it at:
http://www.gis.net/~nite
Grt,
Arnaud.
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: apt-get with rpm?
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 03:34:23 GMT
mpulliam writes:
> There is a thing called alias that's supposed to translate between
> different packaging systems.
It's called 'alien'.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How do I install Win95 without stuffing up my MBR?
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 12:23:33 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jacques Guy wrote:
>
> Now, please, please, stop throwing bricks at me.
> I write educational software (sort of) and not
> everybody uses Linux. I have so far held back on
> installing Win9x, because I was warned it would
> take over my MBR and I'd end up in deep shit.
>
> Now,
>
> I have two hard disks. Each is bootable, DOS6.22
> and Win3.1, and Linux resides on hdb14.
>
> I would like to upgrade one of my Win3.1 copies
> to Win95. I was warned by the colleague who gave
> me his copy of Win95 that Win95 would "try and
> take over my system". Good-bye LILO, I have to
> restore the MBR, but I'd rather keep all this to
> a minimum of hassles. My question is: if I upgrade
> the copy of Win3.1 on my second physical hard disk,
> will Win95 stuff up my MBR (which, I assume, lives
> on my first hard disk?).
>
> It's not funny, you know. I do not want to install
> Win95, but I have to. There are too many people
> out there who have never even *seen* a DOS command
> line.
>
> Any suggestions, any help, any horror stories you
> may contribute are really, really, welcome.
>
> Thank you in advance.
I'm not sure what linux distro you're using, but in RH you can do the
following mkbootdisk and a linux boot disk is made. After installing
win95, boot up linux with the bootfloppy, rerun /sbin/lilo and lilo will
be insatlled in the MBR once again. You could alter lilo.conf so lilo
will be placed in the partition instead of the MBR, so in the future,
you would only have to make that partition active again after a windows
reinstall to bring back LILO.
Eric
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: word docs 2 ps/pdf
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 12:24:45 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Christian Wenz wrote:
>
> i am looking for a simple tool which converts word documents to a format
> like ps or pdf or maybe tex.
> are ther any tools like this ???
search freshmeat, there are tools around that do this
Eric
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From: "David Fulton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: End-User Alternative to Windows
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 04:27:23 -0600
HMMM...
"Anthony D. Tribelli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8q924i$2o2$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >> Microsoft's "lead" was miniscule compared to the amount of
> >> time they sandbagged on fully exploiting the 386 architecture
> >> or delivering a viable GUI.
> >
> > Really. I was happily using os/2, with 32 bit pre-emptive
multithreading
> > multitasking it's wonderfull WPS GUI while mickysoft users were using
that
> > pathetic windoze 3.1 running a top dos with nearly nonexistant
> > multitasking. OS/2 ran dos sessions in V8086 boxes well enough to fool
> > a windoze 3.1 instalation to run win31 apps perfectly except those that
> > had to bypass all the microsoft crap and talk directly to the hardware
like
> > communications programs.
> >
> > 7 years later and MS is finally getting around to dumping DOS, but needs
> > 16 times the processor and memory to achive the same results.
>
> You do realize that OS/2 1.x was Microsoft's second attempt to dump DOS
> and that Microsoft's first attempt to dump DOS was Xenix? WinNT (aka OS/2
> NT) a third attempt? But those damn end users ...
I think you need to seperate out the fact that OS/2 was taken over by IBM
and is still used by some people today (quite religiously too, although I am
not one that uses it.) Ever since that happened the development of OS/2 was
conducted with an entirely different philosophy than Windows. Also, Windows
95/98 and, yes, Me are still running on top of a real mode MS-DOS, no matter
how much MS may try to say that they are OSes, they are not, the DOS
underneath is the OS with a protected mode 32bit GUI on top of it. I will
admit that thier reliance on MS-DOS has diminished significantly since
Windows 3.11, but that is just progress. It is interesting you bring up
Xenix as MS's attempt to dump DOS since Xenix was a Unix clone (hmmm kinda
like Linux perhaps?) and even though it failed miserably was very robust and
took full advantage of the then top of the line 80286 IBM/AT. It is just the
same battle but with more Players. Compared to wars, it is the WW1 of
computing and the IBM/MS battle that started it was the advent and demise of
the PS/2 and OS/2. IBM and MS used to be quite the lovers from a corporate
standpoint, but now IBM seems to have given up its struggle to break free.
An IBM Aptiva comes shipped with a Windows product and not OS/2. But I
digress.
> Tony
> ------------------
> Tony Tribelli
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: word docs 2 ps/pdf
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 03:36:57 -0700
Follow-ups trimmed to comp.os.linux.misc. Don't cross-post.
On or about Thu, 12 Oct 2000 10:57:24 +0200, Christian Wenz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scrivened:
> thanks,
> but i have no word !!!
> i work only under linux but sometimes i get worddocuments and cant read
> them.
> thats why i am looking for a tool under linux for converting word-files
> to something linux-conform.
Ask for what you want. Your question is "How can I read MS Word files
under GNU/Linux".
Answers: catdoc, mswordview, AbiWord, StarOffice, Applix,
Corel WordPerfect. All should be better than the "strings" trick. None
are guaranteed to work all the time. I find catdoc works surprisingly
well (it outputs straight text). StarOffice is probably truest to
original formatting and most successful over a wide range of documents.
It also allows you to save to MS Word format if necessary.
--
Karsten M. Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.netcom.com/~kmself
Evangelist, Opensales, Inc. http://www.opensales.org
What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal
http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org
GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Netscape 4.75 thinks it's on a Mac
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 03:37:47 -0700
On or about Thu, 12 Oct 2000 01:25:28 GMT, Rick Pasotto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scrivened:
> Why does my netscape 4.75 send an HTTP_USER_AGENT of
> 'Mozilla/3.01Gold (Macintosh; I; 68K)'?
> home.netscape.com/download/index.html is somehow able to give the
> correct info. How is that page able to do it? Have they hard coded
> a fudge for their error?
You running Junkbuster? That's the default agent header it sends.
--
Karsten M. Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.netcom.com/~kmself
Evangelist, Opensales, Inc. http://www.opensales.org
What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal
http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org
GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0
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From: Little Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Using the dos version of dd...
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:00:26 GMT
I've gone and got myself a copy of unix95.zip which contains dd.exe
which is essentially dd for dos.
I would like to use it for making floppy images for easier distribution
of boot disks at work, however as I dont (officially) have a linux
box at work I'm stuck using dos.
In linux I would normally use
dd if=/dev/fd0 of=floppy.img
to create an image file
and
dd if=floppy.img of=/dev/fd0
to write it back to a floppy. However this doesn't work with the dos
version as dos doesn't know anything about /dev/fd0...
if=a:
if=a:\
if="a:"
if="a:\"
All fail to work (Permission denied errors) - so can anyone think of
a way arround this? (Unfortunately I need to use the dos version as
out PC technicians need to be able to run a dos batchfile to create
a new image or to write one to a floppy. And no, putting linux on
all our machines is *not* an option! <grin> I'm having a hard
enough time persuading management to let me have a linux box to
evaluate! )
Any help you can give would be much appreciated, however unfortunately
I don't have much in the way of newsgroup access at the moment, so
if you can help it'd be great if you mailed me a copy (lp @ juggler .
net)
Ta muchly in advance...
--
The Little Paul with the Big Kitbag
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Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: url for gtksee?
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:11:18 GMT
quick question:
i'm trying to grab the tarball sources for gtksee but have had no luck
getting through to
hotaru.clinuxworld.com/gtksee
does anyone know if this link is still valid as the homepage for this
package?
thanks
p
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: Peter Huetmannsberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Video Out Signal, which card?
Date: 12 Oct 2000 13:29:47 +0100
Hi!
I want to record what I see on my screen onto a video tape.
I realize there are cards with S-VHS out, but I have no idea what is
supported and what not.
I haev searched the web and not found anything at all.
Has anyone got an idea, how to solve that riddle.
I do not want to display, or edit videos. I just want to be able
to record what is happening on my X-Server onto a video tape.
Many thanks for your help
.peter
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From: "Jonathan Gift" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help: xcalendar problems from start go
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 13:33:03 +0200
Hi,
I just installed XCalendar-i18n off the Debian 2.2 distro. I like the
application and wish to use it, but when I click on a date or the help
option I get the following warnings:
Cannot convert string "False" to type scrollMode
and: Cannot convert string "False" to type ResizeMode
Only once. I can keep clocking on dates afterwards and no repeat. Any ideas?
I read the README and man pages and nothing.
Thanks,
Jonathan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Herrman)
Subject: Re: Using the dos version of dd...
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 13:32:55 +0200
On Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:00:26 GMT, Little Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've gone and got myself a copy of unix95.zip which contains dd.exe
> which is essentially dd for dos.
huh? I thought 'rawrite' was the dos version of 'dd'..
--
Linux Gebruikers Handleiding v1.2 : http://2mypage.cjb.net
Linux RedHat 6.1 Kernel 2.2.17 Toshiba P233 MHz, 32 Mb RAM
1:30pm up 1 day, 8:06, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
Western Civilization, that would be a good idea!
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From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Elsa Microlink USB + KPPP
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 13:19:21 +0200
"Lyle R. Taylor" wrote:
>
> It should already be configured to not allow you to log in as root using
> telnet. If it is not, edit the file /etc/securetty. It should contain only
> the following lines:
>
> tty1
> tty2
> tty3
> tty4
> tty5
Hi,
I got a new Elsa Microlink USB 56k (analog modem) and tryed to get it to
work.
I had only success with yast (wvdial) on SuSE 7.0 which did some strange
settings and atomated cmd's which I don't understand.
My favorit tool to make a ppp-connection is the kppp (frontend from
KDE).
I used this together with an external ISDN-adapter.
My favorit distribution is Mandrake (7.2 Beta).
My prob is, that I never got it to work with kppp and completly never on
Mandrake.
Is there anyone who got it to work ?
I don't found any help in the WEB until now and the manual from Elsa is
realy poor.
Which settings, initstrings or scripts do need to get the Elsa-modem to
work.
additional info: the USB-implementation works well, /dev/modem ->
/dev/usb/ttyACM0
Thanks for any help
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From: Joachim Feise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: word docs 2 ps/pdf
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 13:59:51 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Christian Wenz wrote:
>
> thanks,
> but i have no word !!!
> i work only under linux but sometimes i get worddocuments and cant read
> them.
> thats why i am looking for a tool under linux for converting word-files
> to something linux-conform.
StarOffice can read Word documents.
-Joe
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Subject: Financial software ~ Quickbooks Pro ~ Linux?
From: Brett Randall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 12:04:23 GMT
Hi all
I am looking to totally replace Windows with Linux. I have been
working with, administrating, programming and hacking up linux for
around 4 years now, but not once have I found a reasonable financial
accounting package for small-to-medium businesses.
I currently use QuickBooks Pro 6.0 for Windows, and I want most of the
same functionality in a Linux package. I don't mind paying for it, it
just needs to be proven to work well. I don't want to use WINE
emulation at this stage.
TIA
--
/BR
Manager
InterPlanetary Solutions
http://ipsware.com/
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: url for gtksee?
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 14:15:46 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> quick question:
>
> i'm trying to grab the tarball sources for gtksee but have had no luck
> getting through to
> hotaru.clinuxworld.com/gtksee
>
> does anyone know if this link is still valid as the homepage for this
> package?
>
> thanks
> p
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
found through google:(not sure if it's the latest, but there doesn't
appear to be any other reference in sourceforge nor freshmeat)
http://download.sourceforge.net/mirrors/stampedelinux/unstable/pre-0.90/source/xapp/gtksee/source/
Eric
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Subject: Re: RedHat 7.0 rpm's on RedHat 6.1?
Date: 12 Oct 2000 12:21:54 GMT
On 12 Oct 2000 09:39:01 GMT, Michael McConnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rafael) wrote in
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>>I have installed RedHAt 6.1 (gentus). I want install new packages from
>>RedHat 7.0. WIll it work, I can not do upgrade because RedHAt
>>installation do not recognize my third ide controler.
>
>The binary ones will more than likely not work (different glibc version).
>Your best bet is to get the source RPMs and recompile.
>
Besides, you need the rpm ugrade for 6.1 (version 3.0.5) or you won't
even be able to unpack them; not even the source rpm files.
Villy
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From: -ljl- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Why doesn't rm -R *.obj work?
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 12:34:04 GMT
In article <J73F5.282$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards) wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ken Schrock wrote:
>
> >Or ls -R *.obj for that matter...
> >
> >Please e-mail me, I can't get through all these groups everyday.
>
> Then just watch for the followups to the threads you start.
>
> $ find . -name "*.obj" -exec rm {} \;
For the cautious:
find . -name "*.obj" -ok rm {} \;
will prompt before removal. After you are convinced that this
is what you really want to do use bash's editing feature to
change ok to exec
--
Louis-ljl-{ Louis J. LaBash, Jr. }
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Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rick Pasotto)
Subject: Re: Netscape 4.75 thinks it's on a Mac
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 12:57:14 GMT
On Thu, 12 Oct 2000 03:37:47 -0700 in comp.os.linux.misc,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On or about Thu, 12 Oct 2000 01:25:28 GMT, Rick Pasotto
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scrivened:
> > Why does my netscape 4.75 send an HTTP_USER_AGENT of
> > 'Mozilla/3.01Gold (Macintosh; I; 68K)'?
> > home.netscape.com/download/index.html is somehow able to give the
> > correct info. How is that page able to do it? Have they hard coded a
> > fudge for their error?
>
> You running Junkbuster? That's the default agent header it sends.
Yup. That does seem to be what's happening. Thanks.
--
"No man's life or treasure are safe while the legislature meets."
-- Thomas Jefferson
Rick Pasotto email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Edwin Johnson)
Subject: Re: net2phone for linux?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 12 Oct 2000 13:01:36 GMT
There are several. Speakfree can be obtained in both Windows(ugg!) and
Unix/Linux format. I've communicated to people over the net that had both
versions. The url is:
www.fourmilab.ch/speakfree/unix
Another is Free Phone which can communicate with some common protocols and
there used to be a version of M$ available. It isn't as standard as the
protocols used in speakfree above. It's url is:
www.inria.fr/rodeo/fphone
With both you will need a fairly fast connection. The speakfree has many
different protocols available and other features. It basically is a command
line sort of program, but several gui front ends have been made for it.
Hope this helps. ...Edwin
On Wed, 11 Oct 2000 18:58:27 +0200, Norbert Wegener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hello,
>net2phone is a program which lets you make telephone calls via the
>internet. Unfortunately this software is available only for windows.
>Is there a linux clone of that program available?
>Thanks
>Norbert Wegener
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~ earth with your eyes turned skyward, ~
~ for there you have been, there you long ~
~ to return." -- da Vinci ~
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From: "nybblex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: many distributions....
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 16:05:02 +0300
Hello dear newsgroup...
I recently installed Mandrake but I was told that StormLinux (by Debian I
think) is better..
So, Mandrake Vs StormLinux ???
...and something else..
which is the best: KDE or Gnome (which one should I start to use?)
I am new in this Linux world so any help would be highly appreciated...
thanx in advance
Konstantinos
(my english sucks sometimes)
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