Linux-Misc Digest #858, Volume #24 Sun, 18 Jun 00 18:13:01 EDT
Contents:
Re: netscape appearance ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: RedHat vs Slackware ("Andrew N. McGuire ")
Re: PPProblem (Bill Unruh)
Re: Delete File With Strange Chars (Vilmos Soti)
Re: pppd dies unexpectidely with Kernel Bug (Bill Unruh)
Re: Linux freeze when running at 500 Mhz (=?iso-8859-1?Q?St=E9phane?= Marguet)
Re: Colorado Backup (1400) (Leonard Evens)
Re: LILO installation (Leonard Evens)
Creating a boot disk from an old version of DOS (mike)
Re: Linux freeze when running at 500 Mhz (Tim Dixon)
Re: Freewwweb prompts for System password only (Was "Re: No answer from freewwweb")
("Irving Bush")
Re: FIPS question (Leonard Evens)
Re: FIPS question (Leonard Evens)
Graphics Problem (Scott Szymanski)
Re: Helix Gnome (Matthew Haley)
Re: Apache Directory Listing (Akira Yamanita)
Re: Creating a boot disk from an old version of DOS (Akira Yamanita)
Re: Tape backup: tar versus dump (Mark Bratcher)
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: netscape appearance
Date: 18 Jun 2000 19:18:37 GMT
MooR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I know the appearance of Netscape can be changed by putting some
: variables in /home/user/.Xdefaults
: Does anyone have a list of these variables and their meaning?
Clock on help in netscape, or read the Netscape.ad file that comes with
Netscape, or do a strings on Netscape and pick out the default settings.
Peter
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From: "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RedHat vs Slackware
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 14:50:13 -0500
On 18 Jun 2000, Peter T. Breuer wrote:
+ Andrew N. McGuire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
+ : On Sat, 17 Jun 2000, Simon Lemieux wrote:
+ : Also a distribution is much more than a "bunch of compiled software".
+ : There has to be much thought and planning as to what the primary goal(s)
+ : of the distribution must be; stability, standards compliance, free
+ : software, support, bleeding edge software, etc... And as for compiling
+
+ But do you really think there is? Sorry, general policy comes down from
+ "on high", and then people do their best to put it into practice lower
+ down the compilation ladder. Or ignore it.
Yes, I really think so, some friends and myself got a start on our own
linux distribution, we got it all working, but it is just a 'base
system'. Our biggest things were FHS compliance and security. I might
add that not all distributions are produced by what I would call major
companies. Slackware is an example it is pretty much the labor of love
of one man (primarily). One man (Patrick J. Volkerding) whos decisions
I agree with, for the most part.
+ : software relacing distributions, that depends, if my distribution does
+ : not come with freeswan, or lynx, of whatever, I don't feel I am
+ : replacing the distribution if I build and install that software.
+
+ You're not. But recompiling apache to fit into /usr/apache instead of
+ /usr/local/apache would be a "replacement".
+
+ Can anyone still recompile apache these days? Last time I tried it was
+ a deep mystery involving umpteen upgrades of perl.
I have no problems compiling Apache, however I just submitted a bug
report on the alpha (2.04a) yesterday, buildconf produces a broken
configure script on Solaris ( due to bash allowing '==' as a comparison
operator, while Bourne knows only of '='). Besides you should have
either Perl 5.005_3 or 5.6, you are missing out on some nice things
if you don't. If your Perl is too old, there may be CERT advisories
pertaining to exploits in those version, check it out.
[ snip ]
Regards,
anm
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: PPProblem
Date: 18 Jun 2000 19:59:52 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(rasteri) writes:
]I have a small problem. (OK, it's actually quite a big problem)
]I am trying to get my linux box to connect to my ISP, but for some
]reason it just won't work. When I use the -detach and -debug options
]to pppd, then I get a lot of these....
]sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <asyncmap 0x0> <magic 0xWhatever> <pcomp>
]<accomp>]
]with the occasional....
]rcvd [LCP ConfAck id=0x1 <asyncmap 0x0> <magic 0xWhatever> <pcomp>
]<accomp>]
]I have checked to see that PPP is actually running on my ISPs computer
](i.e. I check that there are a lot of weird characters). This is
]happening no matter what ISP I connect to (I have accounts on a few
]ISPs). All the ISPs work fine when I plug my modem into my windows 95
]box. It was working fine yesterday morning, then I disconnected and
]reconnected about 5 mins later and it didn't work. Noone logged on
]during that 5 mins, let alone modified any config files (if my log is
]telling the truth). How is it possible that my config files are
]untouched, noone logs on, yet pppd suddenly starts to fail? I can log
]in to my ISP using minicom and then start up a ppp session, but even
]that doesn't work when I close minicom and run my ppp script.
A few possibilities.
a) you are using ATZ to initialise your modem and something changed the
stored config. in the modem . this is a bad idea. Use AT&F (or AT&F1 for
sportsters) and then also put in specific modem commands you want.
b) Your UART port on your serial port/modem port is wrong
setserial /dev/ttyS2
(or whatever port your modem is on) will tell you. It should probably be
16550A Not 16550 or 16450.)
c) YOur ISP changed something.
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Subject: Re: Delete File With Strange Chars
From: Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 20:03:14 GMT
Henjo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>> Henjo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> Okay, here's the problem:
>>>> Someone uploaded to my ftp server (linux server) a file with very strange
>>>> characters (the name) with strongly resemble some binary dump of a file.
>>>> The normal 'rm -R AAAA/' does not work. It just doesn't delete it.
>>>> I know there is a way to delete it by looking up it's inodenumber and
>>>> remove it .. but I don't know how exactly..
[...]
> It still doesn't work. The dir in question has a really long name with
> about all strange chars I can think of (;\/-*)..
Try rm -i ./*
The ./ will cancel out the leading hyphens.
To get the inode of a file, try ls -i. I checked if rm lets you
remove a file by inode. It doesn't. You might play with ext2ed.
Vilmos
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: pppd dies unexpectidely with Kernel Bug
Date: 18 Jun 2000 20:05:08 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> denis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
]It has become very difficult for me to connect to Web. 4 to 8 tries are
]necessary. When it fails, I got a particular message from chat program
]about an "alarm". After that, either pppd dies or there is a Kernel
]bug. You may refer to the log behind my signature.
a chat alarm means it did not receive the expect string it is waiting
for.
]Jun 17 22:54:04 yoda chat[1097]: CONNECT
]Jun 17 22:54:04 yoda chat[1097]: -- got it
]Jun 17 22:54:04 yoda chat[1097]: send (^M)
]Jun 17 22:54:04 yoda chat[1097]: timeout set to 10 seconds
]Jun 17 22:54:04 yoda chat[1097]: expect (~)
So why are you waiting for ~? It is never coming.
Reset your chat script to end with
CONNECT '\c'
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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?St=E9phane?= Marguet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: Linux freeze when running at 500 Mhz
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 22:42:45 +0200
First excuse me for the cross-posting.
But Linux run fine at 333 Mhz and freeze at 500 Mhz. It's running fine (well
, it's running as usual) on windows !!
So it's or a problem of speed or of temperature. No ??
kamborg a �crit :
> On Sat, 17 Jun 2000 23:06:44 +0200, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Newsgroups: alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.misc
> >Subject: Linux freeze when running at 500 Mhz
> >Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 23:06:44 +0200
> >X-Trace: nnrp3.clara.net 961276155 212.43.241.160
> >NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 22:09:15 BST
> >Xref: dfw-artgen.news.verio.net alt.os.linux.mandrake:49954
> comp.os.linux.misc:121584
>
> >I'm using a Mandrake 7.02 on a Pentium III 500 Mhz with an asus P3B-F
> >motherboard. I had a big problem of high temperature (120�C when running
> >at 333 Mhz).... I used a thermal paste and the temperature went down to
> >less than 80 �C ..... It's running fine under windows but now my linux
> >is freezing and act really weirdly !!! I really don't
> >understant. I suppose it's a Linux problem but....I don't know what to
> >do ??
>
> There are those among us who refuse even to respond to cross-posted
> inquiries, but I'll tell you this:
>
> Linux does NOT freeze at eighty degrees Centigrade !
>
> for sure,
> kamborg
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Colorado Backup (1400)
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 15:43:23 -0500
"J. Otto Tennant" wrote:
>
> Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> >"J. Otto Tennant" wrote:
> [... stuff deleted ...]
>
> >Just what kind of Colorado Backup drive do you have? Linux
> >can probably read SCSI drives (although there was some difference
> >of opinion as to whether or not the Colorado SCSI drives are
> >really SCSI drives in a recent discussion in this newsgroup).
> >Linux can also read the Colorado IDE drives.
>
> It is a tape drive from a Gateway system which has since
> been gutted. While I haven't opened the box (I don't do
> hardware), I think it hangs off of the floppy disk
> interface.
>
> >But if the data was put on the tape by another OS, you may
> >have difficulty ecoding the data. The usual Linux utilities
> >probably won't work. You may be able to do a direct byte
> >by byte copy with dd, but you would then just have a disk
> >file which you also couldn't decode.
>
> Exactly. My guess is that the Colorado backup tapes
> are in a proprietary format. They were written by
> Colorado Software running under W95. I'm trying
> to retrieve them using either Linux or OS/2; and
> I am beginning to think that it is a hopeless effort.
>
> (I have yet to try installing the Colorado Software
> in an OS/2 DOS session.)
>
> Thanks for your reply.
> --
> J.Otto Tennant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Forsan et haec olim meminisse juvabit.
> Charter Member of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy
If it is an old drive running off the floppy disk controller,
then /dev/ftape is the right device. But as you say, it is
probably hopeless to ty to decode what is on the tapes.
You might try finding out from HP (which bought Colorado) what
the format is.
--
Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LILO installation
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 15:49:55 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> I have a partition on my hdd, for win98 and for redhat6.2.
> I just installed 6.2, I cant seem to get the LILO to load. It only loads
> up 2 letters, "LI", instead of "LILO boot:"
>
> I am using an VIA Apollo 6XVE+ mboard, with AWARD BIOS. I tried to set
> my BIOS to default and reinstall Linux, but it doesnt work.
> Somebody help me... PLEASE!!!!
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
You should tell us a bit more. First, do you have a Linux
partition containing the kernel which is below cylinder 1024?
Do you know what kind of disk and disk controller you have?
The RH6.2 install should have allowed you to created a boot floppy.
Boot from that and run the following commands as root
fdisk -l
(This may need an argument. It would be something like
/dev/hda or /dev/sda.)
More /etc/lilo.conf
Let us know the results.
Warning: On some systems, the boot floppy takes a VERY long time
to start booting. Give it 20 minutes before you conclude it isn't
working.
--
Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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From: mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Creating a boot disk from an old version of DOS
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 17:06:19 -0400
Hi
I have an old version of DOS on my hard drive, but no
boot disk. How would I create a boot disk from the DOS
files?
Thanks
Mike
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From: Tim Dixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: Linux freeze when running at 500 Mhz
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 15:58:05 -0500
root wrote:
>
> I'm using a Mandrake 7.02 on a Pentium III 500 Mhz with an asus P3B-F
> motherboard. I had a big problem of high temperature (120�C when running
> at 333 Mhz).... I used a thermal paste and the temperature went down to
> less than 80 �C ..... It's running fine under windows but now my linux
> is freezing and act really weirdly !!! I really don't
> understant. I suppose it's a Linux problem but....I don't know what to
> do ??
> Thanks in advance.....
> St�phane
If you have a machine that's rated at 500MHz, and you're getting that
kind of heat out of it, you've got a hardware problem. Whatever the
symptoms, and whether they show up in Windows or just in NT, you've
definitely got a hardware problem. At that temperature you are going to
see instability. My guess is it's showing up in Linux more "just
because." Maybe Linux is making better use of the "hard" instruction
sets (it *is* optimised for the Pentium, etc.) or whatever, but it's
definitely a hardware problem. Even if you mistyped your temperatures
and you were running 120F, that's a concern.
Try cooling your case better (you should have at least one fan other
than the power supply fan) and bear in mind the possibility that you've
damaged something from the heat. For reference, I've got dual
Celeron/400's overclocked to 504, and I'm running about 90 F.
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From: "Irving Bush" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Freewwweb prompts for System password only (Was "Re: No answer from
freewwweb")
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 17:21:55 -0400
I used the following to connect to freewwweb:-
set the domain to smartwold.com
set the dns addresses to 216.70.64.1 & 216.70.64.2
set up the script authentication :-
expect ogin:
send [EMAIL PROTECTED]
expect assword:
send yourpassword
works for me.
Good luck
"Andrew Purugganan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Distribution:
>
> Bob Hauck ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> : Mon, 12 Jun 2000 19:55:37 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> : >I don't understand. Isn't using minicom the way to get raw response
> : >from the PPP server?
>
> : Yes, but many (most?) terminal servers don't even start ppp until they
> : are told to or until they see ppp frames coming from the other end.
> : OTOH, there is no law that it has to give you a "username" prompt
> : either. That stuff is all fully adjustable on all popular term
> : servers.
>
> : Just set it up to use PAP and try again. I don't use Freeweb, but
> : people here say it does work if you do that.
>
>
> Just tried it and it works after putting PAP authentication
> Yong321, it resembles dialup networking in Winblows world, where you
> enter the username and password 'up front'
> I even removed all scripting entries! Try it out...
> --
> jazz annandy AT dc DOT seflin DOT org
> Registered linux user no. 164098
> Doesn't it bother you, that we have to search for intelligent life
> --- OUT THERE??
>
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FIPS question
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 15:56:15 -0500
DSpaar wrote:
>
> Sorry to be a bother, I'm having a problem trying to run FIPS to repartition my
> hard drive. When I reboot with the DOS system disk I created as described in
> the FIPS documentation, and type "fips" at the A:> prompt, I get a message
> "Program too big to fit in memory". I've tried adjusting the memory available
> to DOS (I have 80 MB RAM) but the message persists.
>
> If anyone has had this problem and knows how to resolve it, I'd be very
> thankful. I'd like to start getting familiar with Linux, but it's going to be
> difficult if I can't get it installed. Oh, I'm attempting this repartitioning
> and installation on a 166 MHz Pentium II MMX machine, if that is helpful and
> I'm running Win98 at the moment.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Regards,
> Dave Spaar
Let me follow up. What you report sounded a bit suspicious,
so I checked the size of fips.exe and it is only about 170K,
which makes sense since it fits on the floppy. It may be
that the DOS disk you created can't make full use of the memory
or for some other reason connected with your BIOS, it can't
see the memory. fips does not need a whole lot of memory
since it doesn't move files, it just reorganizeds the
partition table and the file allocation table.
Try creating a Windows startup disk and then copying all the
fips material to it.
--
Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FIPS question
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 15:51:41 -0500
DSpaar wrote:
>
> Sorry to be a bother, I'm having a problem trying to run FIPS to repartition my
> hard drive. When I reboot with the DOS system disk I created as described in
> the FIPS documentation, and type "fips" at the A:> prompt, I get a message
> "Program too big to fit in memory". I've tried adjusting the memory available
> to DOS (I have 80 MB RAM) but the message persists.
>
> If anyone has had this problem and knows how to resolve it, I'd be very
> thankful. I'd like to start getting familiar with Linux, but it's going to be
> difficult if I can't get it installed. Oh, I'm attempting this repartitioning
> and installation on a 166 MHz Pentium II MMX machine, if that is helpful and
> I'm running Win98 at the moment.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Regards,
> Dave Spaar
Check your BIOS settings. If there is a memory hole at 16MB, then
disable it.
--
Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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From: Scott Szymanski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Graphics Problem
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 21:30:08 GMT
Hello
I believe my problem is in the Xconfigurator or the xf86config but i am
new to linux and do not know. I have tried almost every setting in these
two utilities but everytime i type startx to run kde, i get the same
problem. I am only able to see like half the desired picture. Like the
task bar at the bottom shows up and the bar at the top shows up and i can
see different pictures, but like half of the graphics are missing. The
whole entire background is black and like i can't see any text. I have a
Sis6326 AGP video card with 8mb ram. I have a digital Autoscan color
monitor that can supports maximum resolution up to 1280x1024 and has a
horizontal frequency range of 30-70Khz and a vertical frequency range of
50-120Khz. I would greatly appreciate it for any advice anyone could give.
Thanks
Scott
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthew Haley)
Subject: Re: Helix Gnome
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 14:25:04 -0700
On Sat, 17 Jun 2000 17:58:07 GMT,
Paul Lew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Fri, 16 Jun 2000 16:11:01 -0700, Matthew Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>On Fri, 16 Jun 2000 14:55:28 -0500,
>> David .. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>Will the helix-gnome installer update the gnome that is already
>>>installed on a system or install a new or second version? Anyone know?
>>
>>It will update your current system with the newer version of GNOME and related
>>files.
>>
>>On my Mandrake 7.02 system it upgrade just fine. However, I've a couple of
>>complaints about newer version of The GIMP, it's crashes too often.
>>
>
>Did the Helix-Gnome include "libjpeg.so.62"? or where can one find it
>as it won't run without that version.
Install the following RPM from your Mandrake CD-ROM
libjpeg-6b-11mdk.i586.rpm
--
Matt Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Now showing... Linux-Mandrake 7.02
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From: Akira Yamanita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Apache Directory Listing
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 21:35:59 GMT
Linus wrote:
>
> What is the Line that I would add to either the httpd.conf or the
> srm.conf to DisAllow Directory Listing for web sites?
Under the <Directory /some/path> section under which you wish
to enable file indexing, put "Options +Indexes". If you already
have an "Options" line in there, just add "Indexes" to the end.
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From: Akira Yamanita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Creating a boot disk from an old version of DOS
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 21:38:03 GMT
mike wrote:
>
> Hi
> I have an old version of DOS on my hard drive, but no
> boot disk. How would I create a boot disk from the DOS
> files?
> Thanks
> Mike
Can you boot to DOS on the HD? If so, assuming you want to make the
boot disk in the A: drive bootable:
format a: /s
If you have a blank, formatted disk, "sys a:" should work too.
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From: Mark Bratcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Tape backup: tar versus dump
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 17:56:06 -0400
Craig McCluskey wrote:
>
[snip]
>
> How can one decide between tar and dump? Both have terse man pages (what
> do you expect? :-) ) but dump's seems more inscruitable than tar's. I
> know
> what tar does (and how to write a short shell script to make it a
> proper backup utility), but I don't really have a handle on dump.
>
> In reading dump's man page, I find it backs up either filesystems or
> directories. In backing up directories, it seems to work like tar.
> In backing up filesystems, I understand that it works on a partition-by-
> partition basis. I have been told that in doing so, it makes an image of
> what is on the partition, but have seen no documentation that describes
> what's exactly going on.
These are just my opinions...
As you allude to later in your note, dump is also implicitly aware of
backup 'levels', which it tracks through the /etc/dumpdates.log file.
You could write a script that caused tar to do something like this, but
dump does it for you automatically.
I prefer dump to tar because of the backup levels, and the companion to
dump (which is 'restore') allows you to dynamically select files to
restore by traversing a directory tree. Whereas with tar if you want to
restore something, you would keep a log of verbose tar output at the
time you backed up, then find the file in the list and restore that when
you wanted to restore it. In other words, the dump/restore is a little
more backup system oriented, whereas tar is more generically an
archiving tool (as is cpio).
I think I understand why the dump manual page recommends Tower of Hanoi
scheme with the levels, and why there are ten levels. First, there are
actually 3 types of backups you might want to do: full, incremental, or
differential. Incremental backs up everything that is new/changed since
the last backup of any kind. Differential backs up everything that is
new/changed since the last full backup. To get a full backup with dump,
you use level 0. To get an incremental backup, you use one level higher
than the previous. For differential backup, you use one level higher
than the level of the backup that you want to diff from.
So if you want to do a string of incremental backups, each incremental
from the previous, you need a new level for each one. Having levels 0
through 9 gives you one full and 9 incrementals. The "Towers of Hanoi"
scheme essentially gives you a sequence of incrementals and
differentials that balance efficiency of backup data quantity with how
many backup sessions do you have to access if you want to restore
everything.
I rattled this of the top of my head, so I probably goofed something up
somewhere in the explanation, but you get the idea...
--
Mark Bratcher
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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