Linux-Misc Digest #139, Volume #26 Wed, 25 Oct 00 13:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Microsoft Linux? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
GNU Accounting Utilities (release 6.3.2) help (sysadmin)
Re: ftp tools for linux (John Hunter)
Re: "ls" ("Joe (mvjap3) Philbrook III")
Re: Help lpr: connect: Connection refused ... (Robert Lynch)
Re: Linux PDA ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux PDA (Marius Vollmer)
Re: Out of room in /var partition, log file no longer loggin (Jean-David Beyer)
MS Access ODBC driver ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: FOR ALL VOTERS - PLS READ ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux PDA (Steven Shelikoff)
Re: /opt? (Tijmen Stam)
hdparm for SCSI (Amine M Jekki)
Netscape sucks: alternatives? (Tijmen Stam)
Re: /opt? (Andreas =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=E4h=E4ri?=)
Re: Netscape sucks: alternatives? (Hal Burgiss)
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? (Martin Racette)
RP3 (Filipe Bonjour)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Microsoft Linux?
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 14:59:30 GMT
Is everyone crazy? There is no MS Linux....
other than there investment in Corel.
this is the best joke yet.
gotta run...need to download IE for Linux!!!!!
In article <39f6424b$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Michael Westerman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > If Linux is a system used by a small community of hobbyists and
> > > experimenters and can't get any serious work done because it can't
> > > communicate with the rest of the computer world, it won't go
anywhere.
> >
> > Since none of that is true, however...
>
> Linux is ahead when it can
> force microsoft to design drivers to access linux resources
> not the other way around.
>
> forcing others to complie with your standards now
> Thats market dominance.
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (sysadmin)
Subject: GNU Accounting Utilities (release 6.3.2) help
Date: 25 Oct 2000 11:24:12 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi folks!
Here's my situation:
I've installed via rpm, the GNU Accounting Utilities (release 6.3.2).
In /var/log I have the files pacct usracct savacct.
I've read the man pages on accton.
>From /etc/rc.d/rc.local I run:
/usr/sbin/accton -V /var/log/pacct
However, I see no activity in /var/log pacct or no process running.
What am I missing?
Thanks in advance!
Adam
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Adam Finkelstein
Systems Engineer, IT-Network Systems Engineering
Life Technologies [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: ftp tools for linux
From: John Hunter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 25 Oct 2000 10:25:32 -0500
>>>>> "Te-Cheng" == Te-Cheng Shen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Te-Cheng> Hello Is there any ftp tools like WSFTP on windows
Te-Cheng> platform such that you can download the whole directory.
ncftp is a very nice package that overcomes all of the limitations of
ftp. It can do recursive downloads, has bookmarks, remembers your
username and passwords if you want it to, has filename and dirname
completion with the TAB key and so on.
http://www.ncftp.com/ncftp/
It doesn't have the graphical user interface of WSFTP, but this is a
good thing.
John Hunter
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From: "Joe (mvjap3) Philbrook III" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: "ls"
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 11:33:19 -0400
Reply-To: mvjap3 at work <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I beg to differ sir, If your going to tell someone to "RTFM" then on
something not readily apparent from the man listing, Please specify what
manual you think he should have read...
I read Micer's request and got curious.
I can almost do it with a
ls -F | grep /
But I lack the skill with regex to get grep to list only those lines that
match the pattern <"abc" from Micer's question> at the beginning of the
filename only, without specifying -w or \< pattern \> in which case I
can't figure out how to get it to match an unspecified number of
characters following pattern <ie the rest of the filename...>
I tried man ls, man grep and man regex... And I still don't know how to do
what he asked... So I think it was exceedingly rude to just blow Micer off
with an "RTFM". I mean, in this group even lame questions from clueless
newbies trying to escape MS usually get an answer, so why be so rude to
someone with a different *nix background looking for a replacement to
a command he is used to finding on a *nix.
Joe (theWordy) Philbrook (:-{0% < [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
<< there's nothing like an idiot who thinks he knows everything, of >>
<< course, if I actually knew everything, I'd know I was an idiot. >>
On Wed, 25 Oct 2000, Sjoerd Langkemper wrote:
> RTFM
>
> Read the manual. Or do:
> ls --help | grep dir
>
>
>
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From: Robert Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help lpr: connect: Connection refused ...
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 08:44:17 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
chris wrote:
>
> Hello
>
> I am trying to run a RH 6.2 Samba print and file server at work.
>
> I had it working fine, then all of a sudden, it decides to stop
> printing. If I send a job via windows, it will spool, but sit forever.
> When I try to print directly from the server I get this error:
>
> "lpr: connect: Connection refused. Jobs queued, but cannot start
> daemon"
>
> Of course, when I check, lpr *is* running... so I kill it, and restart
> it as root, it starts, but I still get the same errors. If I reboot it
> will kick out whatever is in the queue as it comes up, but when I go to
> print anything esle -- same damn error!
>
> I tried re-writing my /etc/printcap and it worked once for a few days,
> now it is doing it again. So I tried another re-write (not that that
> really solved anything), and this time it still gives me the same error.
>
> I have been scouring the internet for answers, but have come up with
> nothing.
>
> here is my printcap file:
>
> accthp8000:\
> :sd=/var/spool/samba/accthp8000:\
> :mx=#0:\
> :sh:\
> :rm=208.226.104.206:\
> :rp=lpsmb:
>
> bizdevhp5m:\
> :sd=/var/spool/samba/bizdevhp5m:\
> :mx=#0:\
> :sh:\
> :rm=208.226.104.203:\
> :rp=lpsmb:
>
> bizdevhp5si:\
> :sd=/var/spool/samba/bizdevhp5si:\
> :mx=#0:\
> :sh:\
> :rm=208.226.104.204:\
> :rp=lpsmb:
>
> bizdevhp8000:\
> :sd=/var/spool/samba/bizdevhp8000:\
> :mx=#0:\
> :sh:\
> :rm=208.226.104.215:\
> :rp=lpsmb:
>
> club4mbig:\
> :sd=/var/spool/samba/club4mbig:\
> :mx=#0:\
> :sh:\
> :rm=208.226.104.201:\
> :rp=lpsmb:
>
> craigshp4m:\
> :sd=/var/spool/samba/craigshp4m:\
> :mx=#0:\
> :sh:\
> :rm=208.226.104.202:\
> :rp=lpsmb
>
> genadmhp4si:\
> :sd=/var/spool/samba/genadmhp4si:\
> :mx=#0:\
> :sh:\
> :rm=208.226.104.205:\
> :rp=lpsmb:
>
> lc4050tn:\
> :sd=/var/spool/samba/lc4050tn:\
> :mx=#0:\
> :sh:\
> :rm=208.226.104.213:\
> :rp=lpsmb:
>
> lowcosthp5si:\
> :sd=/var/spool/samba/lowcosthp5si:\
> :mx=#0:\
> :sh:\
> :rm=208.226.104.117:\
> :rp=lpsmb:
>
> member4050:\
> :sd=/var/spool/samba/member4050:\
> :mx=#0:\
> :sh:\
> :rm=208.226.104.210
> :rp=lpsmb:
>
> phaser360:\
> :sd=/var/spool/samba/phaser360\
> :mx=#0:\
> :sh:\
> :rm=208.226.104.209
> :rp=lpsmb:
>
> phaser850dx:\
> :sd=/var/spool/samba/phaser850dx:\
> :mx=#0:\
> :sh:\
> :rm=208.226.104.214:\
> :rp=lpsmb:
>
> risosc5500:\
> :sd=/var/spool/samba/risosc5500:\
> :mx=#0:\
> :sh:\
> :rm=208.226.104.211:\
> :rp=lpsmb:
>
> I REALLY could use some help on this one!
>
> Thank you!
>
> Chris.
If I were you, I would do this:
-backup printcap
-run the RH printtool
-delete all printers
-add a printer, using printtool (/usr/bin/printtool); does it
detect the proper devices?
-edit the printer configuration as needed
-use the printtool's printing tests, direct to device, ascii test
page, postscript page, as debug tool
Hopefully the above will either solve the problem or give you a
clue to what it is.
Regards,
Bob L.
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Robert Lynch-Berkeley CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.palmtops.pilot
Subject: Re: Linux PDA
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 15:38:58 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (James Omura) wrote:
[snip]
> around a bit, I found that the latest downloadable image file for
> Pocket Linux (available for the Compaq iPaq, VTech Helio, and Casio)
> is dated Oct. 11, 2000. I haven't tried it out, but it does look
> like there's progress being made.
Of course, if you get a PPC, like iPaq or Casio, and load Linux,
you still pay Mr Gates for PPC. In the next year, there will be
handhelds shipping w/ Linux. I'll wait. Given the price of the
Agenda, I wonder how much of the iPaq price tag is due to the PPC
license...
- Tere ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
(Opinions expressed are mine alone, and do not represent
statements, policy or opinions of my employer.)
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From: Marius Vollmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.palmtops.pilot
Subject: Re: Linux PDA
Date: 25 Oct 2000 17:56:33 +0200
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (James Omura) writes:
> Another thought about the Agenda and the VTech Helio: Both
> of these units run on MIPS RISC CPU variations and are based on the
> same kernel development sources. Also, both are based on displays
> that are 160 pixels wide with 16 monochrome grey levels. So a lot
> of the lower level programming work should benefit both platforms,
> and in the long run, some applications might also be mutually
> compatible. That will be something interesting to watch.
Speaking of comatability, the way I understand PocketLinux's plan is
that most applications would be compiled to Java byte codes so that
they would be compatible with any port of PocketLinux, regardles of
the instruction set of the processor. That's the right thing,
obviously, and something that Java should be very good at.
Performance shouldn't be too bad because their JVM should be quite
fast, being a JIT compiler and all.
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Out of room in /var partition, log file no longer loggin
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 11:59:47 -0400
Vlar Schreidlocke wrote:
> My machine is on 24/7. Could logrotate have stopped working?
It could have, but I very much doubt it.
> Or is
> there something else that could have filled up /var?
Why not look in /var and see? As root, do du /var and look at the
results.
> Can I just delete messages and it will be recreated?
That will probably not work. The reference to messages will disappear,
but the file will still be there until the klogd or syslogd (I forget
which one) close it. Better to let logrotate do it. If you run 24/7,
look for /var/log/messages.[1-4] and their dates. The messages.1 should
be no more than a week old. Otherwise, that is what is not working.
Here is part of df output for my machine: /dev/sda7
489833 23853 440680 5% /var
so maybe, if you use your machine as I do, about 30,000 blocks are
needed for /var. I give it a lot more, but I have a lot of disk space
available for that. Most of it is used in /var/lib, especially
/var/lib/rpm. YMMV.
> On 25 Oct 2000 00:01:10 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mpulliam) wrotd:
>
> >On Tue, 24 Oct 2000 16:54:24 -0400,
> >Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>Vlar Schreidlocke wrote:
> >>
> >>> My /var partition is apparently
> >full and I don't have any new log
> >>> entries in /var/log/messages
> >since the partition filled up.
> >>
> >>Do you leave your machine up 24/7?
> >If so, most distributions (Red Hat,
> >>for sure) automatically keep
> >/var/log cleaned up by running a daemon
> >>process (logrotate) every night at around 4AM.
> >
> >Note: this happens by default
> >around 4 am GMT (if you have your
> >system set to GMT). Translate that to your local time to
> >find out what time the daemon runs on your machine.
> >You may simply be able to leave the computer running
> >for a few hours one or two days a week, not 24/7,
> >with no editing to logrotate at all.
> >
> >Mine runs at 11 pm local time and it's easy to
> >have the system turned on at that hour, but shut
> >it down afterward so I do not waste power running
> >it all night while I am sleeping.
> >
> >In the interest of keeping it simple,
> >MP
> >
--
.~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642.
/V\ Registered Machine 73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey
^^-^^ 11:50am up 23:10, 2 users, load average: 3.37, 3.26, 3.08
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: MS Access ODBC driver
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 15:59:11 GMT
I am looking for an ODBC driver to connect to an MS Access file under
Linux. A free (or cheap) one. I can find things like ODBC bridges
that will let me connect to an NT box. I can find an ODBC driver that
is almost $700 that claims to read Access (and scores of others I don't
need). And I have found an SDK kit for more money than I can spend.
Any help?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: FOR ALL VOTERS - PLS READ
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 16:09:25 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jerry L Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Oct 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> <snip>
> >
> >Poppycock. Bill Gates (Microsoft) never held a gun to anyone's head
> >to purchase Windows, ... . The multitude has done so of their own
> >volition.
>
> mmm... just wake up from a 20 year nap, eh?
> Didn't catch the DOJ stuff. The illegal vendor licensing plans, the
inability
> to buy PCs without WinX, regardless if you wanted it or not, nor the
ability to
> get your money back even if it was promised in the eula?
>
> Do a little research and birng your self up to speed on this subject.
> Ralph Nadar has some excellent posts on it.
Might I suggest that you talk to a typical user: They think Windows is
great. These are the very same people who snap up upgrades as soon as
released. Don't ask your fellow Linuxer what he thinks about Microsoft,
that is a known.
The last time I bought Windows, bundled with WinWord, was almost 10
years ago. It was installed on a system built from components; as all
my systems have been. There are a plethora of vendors who will custom
build a system, sans OS. In your own words "The illegal vendor
licensing plans" was a _plan_ and _illegal_. It did _not_ happen,
it could not happen: Building PCs is a garage operation. Think!
By the way you need to upgrade your memory: Microsoft unveiled Windows
on November of 1983, and it was not shipped until November of 1985.
I know someone who bought this "very buggy" software, his words.
Somethings never change :-) Would not that make Windows available
for less than 15 years. After all the IBM PC was not introduced until
August of 1981, just 19 years ago. I purchased 13 of these machines
in 1982, for my employer, with DOS, CP/M, and WordStar (of course).
Remember: Apple has been around about 24 year and offers a non
Microsoft/Intel alternative. Didn't they offer the GUI first?
There have always been choices; even the choice not to choose.
Linux is alive and well, thanks to Linus and others.
I apologize for burdening you with the facts.
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From: Steven Shelikoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.palmtops.pilot
Subject: Re: Linux PDA
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 12:19:13 -0400
Marius Vollmer wrote:
> Speaking of comatability, the way I understand PocketLinux's plan is
> that most applications would be compiled to Java byte codes so that
> they would be compatible with any port of PocketLinux, regardles of
> the instruction set of the processor. That's the right thing,
> obviously, and something that Java should be very good at.
> Performance shouldn't be too bad because their JVM should be quite
> fast, being a JIT compiler and all.
It's not like you need all that much performance for the basic apps
(memo, todo, datebook, addressbook) anyway.
Steve
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From: Tijmen Stam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: /opt?
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 18:32:19 +0200
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Mark Post wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Oct 2000 02:48:43 +0200, Tijmen Stam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> -snip-
> >By the way, What is the function of /opt? why not /usr/bin? I couldn't
> >find any info on it?
>
> Well, ordinarily, I would refer you to the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard at
> http://www.pathname.com/fhs but I keep getting an error saying that the
> server doesn't have a DNS entry. A whois check shows that the registration
> record for pathname.com expired last month, so I don't really know what's
> going on there.
I just tried it a week ago, and they were online by then. However, they didn't
say anything about /opt.
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From: Amine M Jekki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: hdparm for SCSI
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 10:27:05 -0500
Hi,
does any body know if there is a command on linux (similar ti hdparm for
EIDE disk) for SCSI disk.
Thanks.
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From: Tijmen Stam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Netscape sucks: alternatives?
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 18:35:31 +0200
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I say Netscape:
I said cool, but now I say : Buggy
I ask: Alternatives (especialy mail in x)
Tijmen
BTW If i'm surfing some sites wich came up very quick 5 minutes back,
now come up really slow or not at all. Is this caused by netscape, ISD
dail on demand or something else?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=E4h=E4ri?=)
Subject: Re: /opt?
Date: 25 Oct 2000 18:44:28 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tijmen Stam wrote:
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>Mark Post wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 25 Oct 2000 02:48:43 +0200, Tijmen Stam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> -snip-
>> >By the way, What is the function of /opt? why not /usr/bin? I couldn't
>> >find any info on it?
>>
>> Well, ordinarily, I would refer you to the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard at
>> http://www.pathname.com/fhs but I keep getting an error saying that the
>> server doesn't have a DNS entry. A whois check shows that the registration
>> record for pathname.com expired last month, so I don't really know what's
>> going on there.
>
>I just tried it a week ago, and they were online by then. However, they didn't
>say anything about /opt.
You weren't reading very carefully....
/opt is reserved for the installation of add-on application
software packages.
(such as Applix etc. I guess [my note])
A package to be installed in /opt shall locate its static files in
a separate /opt/<package> directory tree, where <package> is a
name that describes the software package.
Programs to be invoked by users shall be located in the directory
/opt/<package>/bin. If the package includes UNIX manual pages,
they shall be located in /opt/<package>/man and the same
substructure as /usr/share/man shall be used.
The directories /opt/bin, /opt/doc, /opt/include, /opt/info,
/opt/lib,and /opt/man are reserved for local system administrator
use. Packages may provide "front-end" files intended to be placed
in (by linking or copying) these reserved directories by the local
system administrator, but shall function normally in the absence
of these reserved directories.
Package files that are variable (change in normal operation)
should be installed in /var/opt. See the section on /var/opt for
more information.
Host-specific configuration files should be installed in
/etc/opt. See the section on /etc for more information.
No other package files should exist outside the /opt, /var/opt,and
/etc/opt hierarchies except for those package files that must
reside in specific locations within the filesystem tree in order
to function properly. For example, device lock files must be
placed in /var/lock and devices must be located in /dev.
Distributions may install software in /opt, but should not modify
or delete software installed by the local system administrator
without the assent of the local system administrator.
FHS says this about /usr:
No large software packages should use a direct subdirectory under
the /usr hierarchy. An exception is made for the X Window System
because of considerable precedent and widely-accepted
practice. This section of the standard specifies the location for
most such packages.
[snip]
The /usr/local hierarchy is for use by the system administrator
when installing software locally. It needs to be safe from being
overwritten when the system software is updated. It may be used
for programs and data that are shareable amongst a group of hosts,
but not found in /usr.
/A
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Subject: Re: Netscape sucks: alternatives?
Reply-To: Hal Burgiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 16:48:39 GMT
On Wed, 25 Oct 2000 18:35:31 +0200, Tijmen Stam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I say Netscape:
>I said cool, but now I say : Buggy
I say Mozilla. Not quite there, but close, and damn nice. Even the
nightly builds are usable.
>I ask: Alternatives (especialy mail in x)
I say mutt.
-extremely stable
-extremely fast
-extremely flexible/configurable
By far the most powerful mail handling system in the known universe:
fetchmail -> procmail -> mutt
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From: Martin Racette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 16:58:53 GMT
StarOffice 5.2, for Linux, Windows, OS/2, etc... does the job, it can=20
create the Word, Excel, and most other MS-Office documents as well as=20
editing them.
Martin
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On 10/17/00, 1:30:14 AM, Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote=20
regarding Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?:
> Brian Langenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> In a message on 16 Oct 2000 19:23:12 GMT, wrote :
> BL>
> BL> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Roberto Teixeira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]=
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wrote:
> BL> :>>>>> "Jan" =3D=3D Jan Schaumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wr=
ites:
> BL>
> BL> : Jan> The most portable document format is PDF (Portable Docu=
ment
> BL> : Jan> FOrmat - D'uh). RTF is not half as portable.
> BL>
> BL> : Not to start a document format war, but isn't PDF a proprietary
> BL> : format? What about PS? I don't know if PS is proprietary, but it=
sure
> BL> : is *very* portable
> BL>
> BL> I believe both Postscript and PDF are Adobe proprietary, but are
> BL> well documented to the point where anyone can make a reader
> BL> (Ghostview, xpdf) or writer (ps2pdf, dvipdfm) for them,
> BL> effectively making an open standard. And since Adobe hasn't
> BL> shown much desire to make us participate in the
> BL> "File Standard Hoop-Jumping Olympics", there's little to fear
> BL> that either will be severely mucked-up anytime soon.
> And Adobe has *free* readers for just about all operating systems.
> Adobe does not play the same games as MS -- this proably totally pisse=
s
> Mr. Bill off. Adobe is probably the only major software house to have=
> totally avoided being trashed on some level my MS.
> Note: there is a page on Adobe's website listing all of the companies
> that have signed the PostScript license agreement -- Microsoft is
> *conspicuously* missing from this list...
> BL>
> BL>
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From: Filipe Bonjour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: RP3
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 15:10:56 -0200
Hi,
I've (happily) used for months the "RH PPP" dialer (RP3, I think it's
called) to connect to the Internet. Recently, I have changed my initdefault
from 5 (X) to 3 (text) in /etc/inittab, and started using startx to
initialize the X server.
Now anytime I do this and then start RP3 I get an error that it couldn't
start the interface. So I tried putting the initdefault to 5 again, and
everything worked fine. Is there anything I can do to have it work with
initdefault 3?
(Forgot to mention that I start RP3 from the bar applet. Maybe that's
what's wrong...)
Thanks in advance for any help!
Fil
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