Linux-Misc Digest #139, Volume #19 Mon, 22 Feb 99 10:13:12 EST
Contents:
Re: comp.os.linux.help (M. Buchenrieder)
Re: Always as root - is it dangerous? (Karel Jansens)
Re: Permissions on non-linux partitions... ("Charles Sullivan")
Re: Disable CTL-Chars (^C) in shells script? (Karsten Tinnefeld)
Canon LBP660 (Student)
Re: SCSI CDROM Problem ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Cursor color
Re: Why is X video setup for i386 so complicated? (Todd Knarr)
Re: Kppp & Suse 6.0 upgrade - 'pppd died unexpectedly' (Dan Glover)
Re: Windows/linux connectivity? (Yan Seiner)
Re: fsck error at boot-time (Dramen Mendra)
Re: WP8 question (Bill Van Dyk)
Re: gcc or egcs use pentium instructions? (Johan Kullstam)
Re: which libc? (Frank Sweetser)
Re: sh for Linux (Villy Kruse)
Can someone recomend an ASCII text editor for X, not X-Emacs.... (Miernik)
Re: KDE? Gnome? ... confused (Steve Gage)
Re: Can someone recomend an ASCII text editor for X, not X-Emacs.... (Edwin Johnson)
Re: linux commmands (Jatin Kamat)
Re: Been bashed and kshed ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Is It Just Me (Byron A Jeff)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder)
Subject: Re: comp.os.linux.help
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 08:19:34 GMT
Gary Momarison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>I recently noticed that there is a c.o.l.help NG.
[...]
No. If your newsserver does indeed carry a col.help group,
contact the admin and tell him to remove it. This group has been
superseded more than three years ago (IIRC) with the current
col.* hierarchy structure. Either your newsadmin didn't delete
the group or the server is misconfigured.
Michael
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From: jansens_at_ibm_dot_net (Karel Jansens)
Reply-To: jansens_at_ibm_dot_net
Subject: Re: Always as root - is it dangerous?
Date: 20 Feb 1999 15:38:20 GMT
On Fri, 19 Feb 1999 19:46:01, "Trevor Poole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Always being root can be various tricky for the new user. A potentially
> better way is to make a user account for yourself and then as root for the
> commands that you issue all the time, i.e. shutdown etc, set the suid bit
> by typing chmod a+S <command> ... This will allow you to run certain root
> commands as yourself. There is a potential security hole in using suid but
> if you are the only user then it is not a big problem
>
> regards,
> Trevor
>
I know, but I'm the only user on my linux machine and, like I said, there's
nothing mission critical on it. So I figured: What the heck. It's sooo much
easier this way.
I'm pretty sure I'm gonna get burnt some day, but they say that pain is the
best teacher anyway...
Karel Jansens
jansens_at_ibm_dot_net
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"Give people jam today and they'll just sit and eat it.
Jam tomorrow, now - that'll keep them going for ever.
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From: "Charles Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Permissions on non-linux partitions...
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 01:06:52 -0500
You can't change permissions with chmod once the DOS partition
has been mounted, but you can do so at mount time. Here's the
line from my /etc/fstab file which sets up my Win98 partition for
read/write access for all users:
/dev/hda1 /dosc vfat rw,suid,umask=000,noexec,quiet 1 1
PG wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>
>Is it possible to change group privelages on a DOS partition, or to give
><Write> permission to users other than root? Every time I try to change
>the permissions on my Windows side (as root), I'm told I'm not
>permitted...
>
>Patrick
>
>--
>By LINUX, on LINUX, through LINUX.
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From: Karsten Tinnefeld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.sys
Subject: Re: Disable CTL-Chars (^C) in shells script?
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 12:59:43 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> : : Can anybody tell me if it is possible to disable the
> : : ^C/^S/^Q/^Y etc
> : : in a shell script?
stty -isig
See stty(1). F'up-To set.
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Karsten Tinnefeld
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I were but little happy, if I could say how much.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Student)
Subject: Canon LBP660
Date: 22 Feb 1999 12:04:36 GMT
Ok, here's my problem,
>From my work I may buy a brand new, never used laser printer. It is a relatively
modern LBP660. Since I am a fervent Linux user, I want to verify whether it is
possible to print most of the stuff I produce under Linux.
These things concern:
- WP for Linux documents. I use WordPerfect for the magazine I work for.
- .DVI files. For my study I need much LaTeX.
- PostScript. Read the Printing HOWTO, which is now three weeks old. Followed
all links, but did not find an answer whether the printer could use postscript.
It carried lots of Win9X and WinNT compatible stickers, which is not a good
sign. However, PS drivers exist.
- B/W images. For what I know, most of them are printed by the PS standard, but
information on this was very hard to find.
Anyone?
Greetings,
der Joachim
PS: Please post on this group, instead of by E-Mail. Others may profit as well.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: SCSI CDROM Problem
Date: 21 Feb 1999 06:19:21 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Gerald Willmann
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>On Fri, 19 Feb 1999, Pavel Greenfield wrote:
>
>> I can't seem to get my SCSI Toshiba CDRom to work. (It's Toshiba
>> XM-5401TA.)
>> (I tried >>>mount /dev/hdc /cdrom, and mount would respond /dev/sdc is
I can mount my Toshiba XM3501 without a problem.
I use mount -r -t iso 9660 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom.
/dev/cdrom is a link to /dev/scd0 on my system.
Dan Critchlow
>
>try /dev/scd0 - it's definitely not hdc if you have a scsi cdrom
>
> Gerald
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Cursor color
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 23:57:59 GMT
I run RedHat V5.2. Fvwm2 and xterm, rxvt desktops.
Befor upgrading from V5.0 I had my cursor set to bright red block.
Now I can't find the file to edit to change it.
Anyone have any idea where to look ?
Warren
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From: Todd Knarr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Why is X video setup for i386 so complicated?
Date: 21 Feb 1999 06:27:55 GMT
In comp.os.linux.x T.L. (Terry) Branscombe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> OK. I'm a newbie and my brand TVM model SuperSync 3A isn't on the list.
> Does anyone have the settings for it?
Well, they really aren't in the list. None of the databases or files has
any entry for TVM monitors, and TVM's website doesn't even list the 3A
as a current model. I'm afraid I can't help with it, other than to
suggest trying the generic VESA settings and tweaking them with xvidtune.
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From: Dan Glover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Kppp & Suse 6.0 upgrade - 'pppd died unexpectedly'
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 11:51:15 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Sam Vere
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Here's a thing: I was trying to connect to Demon with kppp, and every
>time it'd get to password authentication, then quit with the error
>message in the subject line.
That seems to be about the only message kppp can give for lots of
situations...
Scripted or PAP?
What does debug output show? (Remember to remove passwords if you post
an extract.)
Dan
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From: Yan Seiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows/linux connectivity?
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 06:42:00 -0500
Look at vnc from ORL - www.orl.co.uk .
Yan
A. Vos wrote:
> I want to 'look'at my Linux machine from my Windows 98 machine in a GUI way.
> Telnet works, that's no problem but is is character based.
> Is there a way in which you can 'explore' your Linux machine from a windows
> machine?
>
> Arno
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From: Dramen Mendra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: fsck error at boot-time
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 07:38:48 -0500
Could you please elaborate on "applying fsck on the device special file of the
defective partition", I had this problem once myself and am still in the dark
on how to do that. Thanks for any advice.
Klaus Kocheisen wrote:
> A.G. schrieb:
> >
> > Hi all:
> >
> > When I boot into Linux I get the following warning:
> >
> > /dev/hda2: Inode 237785 has illegal block(s)
> > /dev/hda2: UNEXPECTED INCONSESTENCY Run fsck MANUALLY
> >
> > fsck RETURNED ERROR CODE - REBOOT NOW
> >
> > what am I to do about this?
> >
> > /dev/hda2 mounts as /usr, and can't be unmounted. fsck freaks out that I
> > want to use it on a mounted partition.
> >
> > Any input hightly appreciated!!
> >
> > Thanx,
> > Arcady
>
> Go to single user mode and try to umount /usr. If you still cannot
> unmount the partition, you might boot Linux from your distribution media
> and applying fsck on the device special file of the defective partition.
>
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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 02:39:40 -0500
From: Bill Van Dyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: WP8 question
A Dark Elf wrote:
> How do you disable the red undelining stuff that appears when you type a
> mistake?
>
Don't make mistakes.
Just kidding. Seriously, though, has anybody else noticed this:
"Microsoft" is marked as an error in Word Perfect. "Linux" is underlined as
an error in Microsoft Word.
Reminds me of the good old days (last week?) when Microsoft word still
didn't have "internet" in their spell-checker.
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Subject: Re: gcc or egcs use pentium instructions?
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 22 Feb 1999 07:52:01 -0500
Mark Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Seth Van Oort <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Thanks. Does default installation have the compiler using these
> > instructions where appropriate or do you have to configure it a specific
> > way or just pass flags at compile time.
>
> Pentium or Pentium Pro instructions can be enabled using -mcpu where
> cpu is one pentium or pentiumpro.
no. -mcpu=XXXX sets the instruction scheduler. gcc will choose and
arrange the op-codes for that cpu but it only uses the set of op-codes
set by -march=XXXX.
thus gcc -mcpu=pentiumpro -march=i486 will only use op-codes available
on the i486 but arrange them to optimize performance when running on a
pentiumpro. you can run this on the i486. however gcc -mcpu=i486
-march=i486 may be faster.
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From: Frank Sweetser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: which libc?
Date: 22 Feb 1999 07:48:25 -0500
paul@bartok (Paul Bristow) writes:
> Hi,
> This is probably a simple one but I've looked through man pages, info etc
> without any luck. I have several versions of libc in /usr/lib/ but I don't
> know which one egcs is linking against. How can I tell?
> Thanks,
run ldd on the resulting binaries after compiling them.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Subject: Re: sh for Linux
Date: 22 Feb 1999 13:54:42 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Mark Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Philip Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Does anyone know where I would be able to get a copy of the shell sh that
>
>Most Linux distributions ship bash, which will run sh scripts. If for
>some reason you need a real sh, then the various BSDs ship with it, so
>you could get their source and try to build it under Linux. See one
>of http://www.{open,net,free}bsd.org/ .
Does this imply that bash is not a real shell? If so, why not.
Villy
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From: Miernik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,pl.comp.os.linux
Subject: Can someone recomend an ASCII text editor for X, not X-Emacs....
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 12:39:25 GMT
Can someone recomend an ASCII text editor for X, not X-Emacs....
I want it to have sophisticated functions, like syntax highliting for HTML, C,
and LaTeX,
rectangle selecting, line numbering, capitalization conversion, and so on.
But I do not want it to be so big and load such a long time like X-Emacs 2.0,
and first of all do not have such stupid menus and dialogs....
The file opening dialog in X-Emacs is crazy, and also I cannot select blocks
of text by holding <shift> and moving the cursor.
thanks....
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From: Steve Gage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc,linux.redhat.rpm
Subject: Re: KDE? Gnome? ... confused
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 13:04:02 +0000
Richard Steiner wrote:
>
> It's the WorkPlace Shell and their Virtual DOS Machine technology that
> I'd want the most. PM might be a prerequisite for the WPS, I dunno.
>
A few years back when I was into OS/2, I recall that IBM came out with a
Workplace Shell lookalike/workalike for Windows 95. Seems they should be
able to do it for X.
- Steve
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Edwin Johnson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,pl.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Can someone recomend an ASCII text editor for X, not X-Emacs....
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 22 Feb 1999 14:00:11 GMT
I like jed or xjed, depending upon whether or not you are in x. Its commands
are emacs like but it is small and _very_ fast, having all of the other
requirements you wish.
...Edwin
On Mon, 22 Feb 1999 12:39:25 GMT, Miernik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Can someone recomend an ASCII text editor for X, not X-Emacs....
>
>I want it to have sophisticated functions, like syntax highliting for HTML, C,
>and LaTeX,
>rectangle selecting, line numbering, capitalization conversion, and so on.
>
>But I do not want it to be so big and load such a long time like X-Emacs 2.0,
>and first of all do not have such stupid menus and dialogs....
>
>The file opening dialog in X-Emacs is crazy, and also I cannot select blocks
>of text by holding <shift> and moving the cursor.
>
>thanks....
>
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From: Jatin Kamat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux commmands
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 09:01:51 -0500
if u dont remember the whole command, u can type in the first character of
the command in the bash shell and press the tab key a couple of times, it
will list out all the commands starting with that character. cool, eh?
sams - linux in 24 hrs is perfect book for beginners.
Jatin
>
>
> For the amount of diskspace: df. There are some nice switches for it,
> like df -m, which will show you your disk space in megabytes instead of
> K. You can also restrict it to a single directory, and it will show you
> the disk space for the partition holding that directory.
>
> For diskspace in a particular directory: du. A handy switch for this is
> --summarize. For example, to find out the disk space used in the
> directory /usr, du --summarize /usr will do the trick.
>
> To shut down the computer: shutdown -h now. (All three). The -h means to
> halt, and not reboot, and the 'now' means right now. You can also
> specify a time if you want.
>
> To find easy things like that: yes, there are tons of man pages and the
> like, but you're really best off with a basic book on Linux. "Running
> Linux", by Matt Welsh & Lar Kaufman (O'Reilly) is really a fine basic
> book on all things Linux for the beginner. (And really, not so beginner
> either, I guess.)
>
> Look up the command 'apropos' as well: you can use it to search for
> specific keywords in the 'man' pages.
>
> There's also 'info': type info and you will go into the top level of the
> info reader, which has a table of contents. Tons and tons of information
> there just waiting to be grabbed. In fact, 'info' really is the modern
> 'man'.
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Been bashed and kshed
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 14:00:42 GMT
garv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> to be an easy way to change from bash to ksh (and get proper pwd
> prompt) by editing these files, but haven't been around the track enough
man bash
/PROMPTING
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Byron A Jeff)
Subject: Re: Is It Just Me
Date: 21 Feb 1999 08:10:59 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jason Clifford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
-On Sat, 20 Feb 1999, John McBride wrote:
-
-> ....or wouldn't it be fantastic if all linux configuration files were in
-> XML? then a single set of parsers could generate and read all the
-> configuration files...if i had a brain and desire, this would be the
-> dream project to really pull linux ahead of everyone else.
-
-Currently all configuration files are in plain text so you can use
-whatever editor you prefer to change them.
-
-Having all the files in a difference format would exclude that ease of
-editing.
-
-You can use existing tools to parse all config files already.
Jason,
Don't be so quick to dismiss this idea. It may have some merit:
1) XML is a plain ASCII format. You'd still be able to edit it with any old
text editor.
2) XML would put all the files in the same format, which would make it easier
to edit once you learn the format.
3) It would obviate the need for all the existing tools. Only one library
would have to be available to parse config files thus saving development
efforts for other areas.
Now the limiting factors are inertia and compatibility. Inertia because of the
thousands of applications that already exist with their incompatible config
files and compatibility because there needs to be a gurantee that XML can in
fact represent all the possible configurations that are required.
I'm be first in line to flatly state that binary registry type configs are
clearly a bad idea, creating vunerability to corruption and essentially forcing
the use of a single tool for management. But OTOH the various hodgepodge mix
of mutually incompatible text file config formats we have now is going to
eventually get crushed under its sheer weight. We need to start looking for
other ways to manage configurations. It need the following features:
- Text format.
- Editable with ordinary tools.
- Compilable/Decompilable to existing config formats for the inevitable long
transition period.
- Consistent for all applications' config file requirements.
This is probably the minimum set of features required. Once such a system is
in place, the slow work of transisioning all the existing applications to the
new config format begins. During the transistion the system will manage both
the existing format and the new format, so that folks can put the new system
on existing machines. Then as applications are retrofitted with the new
config format, they can seamlessly be installed. Eventually all applications
will use the new format, and the old scattered mess will be a memory.
It's a tough road, but someone (not me BTW ;-) will have to step up to the
challange. I think that Caldera's COLA system may fit the above requirements.
BAJ
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