Linux-Misc Digest #111, Volume #27               Wed, 14 Feb 01 16:13:03 EST

Contents:
  Re: RH7/3Com and 3Com Mini PCI Ethernet adapter (Chris Webster)
  Re: RH7/3Com and 3Com Mini PCI Ethernet adapter (Chris Webster)
  Linux changed my FAT table desc?? (Budro)
  Re: RH7/3Com and 3Com Mini PCI Ethernet adapter
  Re: PC, MAC and Linux Network
  Re: Mail Server Newbie (Rod Smith)
  Re: Mail Server Newbie (Rod Smith)
  Re: RH7/3Com and 3Com Mini PCI Ethernet adapter (Chris Webster)
  Re: Linux changed my FAT table desc?? (Chris Webster)
  Re: Can I use my ATA/100 hard drive with my ATA/66 controller motherboard? ("Mordak")
  Re: Simple Question on File Extension (George Bell)
  Re: Simple Question on File Extension (Lew Pitcher)
  Removing Lilo (Philip)
  Re: Software RAID on ReiserFS (?) ("Booster")
  Re: RH7/3Com and 3Com Mini PCI Ethernet adapter (Aaron Kulkis)
  Re: RH7/3Com and 3Com Mini PCI Ethernet adapter (Aaron Kulkis)
  What is wrong with 2.2.18mdk and Kmix (mixer KDE 1) ? (Emmanuel Beranger)
  Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else ("Mark Hadfield")
  Re: 2.2.17 kernel and usb (Sinner from the Prairy)

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From: Chris Webster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.advocacy,redhat.networking.general
Subject: Re: RH7/3Com and 3Com Mini PCI Ethernet adapter
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 12:20:05 -0700


> >>I have RHat 7.0 installed on my IBM thinkpad and when I type
> >>
> >>% ifconfig eth0 (or eth1)
> >>
> >>it does not find the card. The card, a 3Com 10/100 PCI Mini Ethernet
> >>adapter works properly when I boot Windows 2000 on the same laptop.
> 
> What card? What are you talking about???? Laptops don't have "cards" in
> the same way as desktops do. They have pcmcia sockets or cardbus
> sockets.

Hate for you to be the last person to find out, but they do now.  It's
called *miniPCI*.  On my Dell C800 its a little card that plugs into the
bottom, it currently allows built in ethernet and modem.  miniPCI is
also used in docking stations.  It is supported under linux.

To original poster:

If you 'cat /proc/pci' does the minPCI and 3com show up?

--Chris

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From: Chris Webster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.advocacy,redhat.networking.general
Subject: Re: RH7/3Com and 3Com Mini PCI Ethernet adapter
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 12:21:04 -0700


> Yea.
> Run Windows instead of Linsux .
> 
> Or, do without your hardware like most Linux users.

Hmmm, still waiting for Win98 to support my USB Jumpshot card reader.

--Chris

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Budro)
Subject: Linux changed my FAT table desc??
Date: 14 Feb 2001 19:27:56 GMT

Don't know if the description is correct or not but here it is..

In a dual drive system

Disk A: Linux
Disk B: FAT32 ( NO OS installed, just files )

Disk B was last mount under linux as vfat.. Only mounted, no writing 
to the disk was done.

I blew away Disk A.. fdisk'ed formatted loaded WIN98.. eventually 
will load Linux on Disk A to dual boot..

The thing is .... Disk B does not show up in my computer??

The BIOS recognizes the Disk B, Fdisk see's Disk B, BUT the type 
shows up as non-DOS!?!?!?!?!?

Did Linux update the FAT table in some way from just mounting the 
disk????

Anyone??

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.advocacy,redhat.networking.general
Subject: Re: RH7/3Com and 3Com Mini PCI Ethernet adapter
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 19:46:53 -0000

On Wed, 14 Feb 2001 12:21:04 -0700, Chris Webster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Yea.
>> Run Windows instead of Linsux .
>> 
>> Or, do without your hardware like most Linux users.

        I have been using a USB keyboard, mouse and joystick for 12 months.

        I have been using fully suppported 3D gaming cards of various kinds
        for over 2 years. 

        I have been using a flatbed scanner and video overlay card for 
        over 2 years.

        What is it that I'm supposed to be missing?

>
>Hmmm, still waiting for Win98 to support my USB Jumpshot card reader.


-- 

          The LGPL does infact tend to be used instead of the GPL in instances
          where merely reusing a component, while not actually altering that
          component, would be unecessarily burdensome to people seeking to 
        build their own works.
  
          This dramatically alters the nature and usefulness of Free Software
          in practice, contrary to the 'all viral all the time' fantasy the
          anti-GPL cabal here would prefer one to believe.           
                                                                |||
                                                               / | \

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Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.m68k,comp.os.linux
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 14:50:36 -0500
From:  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PC, MAC and Linux Network

> I'm thinking of building a network with the following:
> 1 x PC (Win98SE/Mandrake 7.2 workstation, AMD K6-2 350, 288M Ram, 10G HD,
> 3COM 3c509 NIC)
> 1 x PC (Mandrake 7.2 workstation, P166MMX, 40M Ram, 1.6G HD, Genius NIC)
> 1 x PowerMac (MacOS 8.5, PPC7100, 88M Ram, NuBus, 6G SCSI HD, transceiver)
> 1 x 8 port minihub
> 1 x cable modem
> 1 x PC Bubble jet printer

If the P166 machine is not being used for anything,
use that as the router/firewall. Get a second NIC
for it, connect one to the hub and one to the cable
modem. Connect the other two computers to the hub.
I don't know if your printer has ethernet networking
capability. If so, then connect that to the hub too,
if not, then connect it to the AMD K6 workstation.

If you are using the P166 machine, then get another
computer for the router/firewall. A 386 with 8MB
RAM should be more than enough. You can probably
pick one up for about $25 or find one someone is
throwing out and get it for free. Install Linux
and 2 NIC's, connect one to the hub and the other 
to the cable modem. Connect the other three 
computers to the hub. 

Greg


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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Mail Server Newbie
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 19:58:40 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> But a second big advantage is that there is Usenet group:
> comp.mail.sendmail where a group of extremely knowledgeable people
> rapidly answer questions. There are also a few people in this newsgroup
> that can do the same, but the other is the appropriate one. (Of course,
> there is probably a newsgroup for qmail and Exim as well, but I never
> looked.)

A grep on my .newsrc file finds hits for qmail, but not for Exim or
Postfix. I know that there are qmail and Postfix mailing lists (I
subscribed to both for a while). Probably for sendmail and Exim, too,
but I've not checked.

-- 
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux & multi-OS configuration

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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Mail Server Newbie
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 20:07:04 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Jean-David Beyer wrote:
> 
>> Michael Heiming wrote:
>> >
>> > James Horvath wrote:
>> >
>> > > I have Mandrake Linux 7.2 (minimal install) on a Pentium Celeron 400MHz with
>> > > 32MB RAM.
> 
> Anyway, his distro should have some tool to set this and make it even easier, but I
> don't know about mandrake,

I missed the comment about the original poster using Mandrake. Mandrake
uses Postfix as its default MTA. As such, it's probably best to *NOT*
install sendmail, but reconfigure Postfix as required. Of course, if you
really WANT to use sendmail, you can rip out Postfix and install
sendmail, but that's just extra effort. Since that post also mentioned
installing sendmail, it's unclear if this has already been done or if it
might perhaps be running BOTH Postfix AND sendmail, which could
conceivably cause conflicts or peculiar behavior.

James Horvath originally wrote:

> My question is, what do I need to setup to read my mail from my Windows
> machine using Outlook 2000?  I can read it from Linux using Kmail, etc., so
> I know the transfer from the POP accounts worked fine.

If this much is working, you're most of the way there. You just need a
POP or IMAP server for Linux, to let your local network systems read the
mail. I believe both come in a package called imap on Mandrake, so just
install that and, if necessary, futz with the appropriate /etc/xinetd.d/
configuration files to enable the server(s). (You'll need to restart
xinetd so it knows to handle the new servers.)

-- 
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux & multi-OS configuration

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From: Chris Webster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.advocacy,redhat.networking.general
Subject: Re: RH7/3Com and 3Com Mini PCI Ethernet adapter
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 13:06:31 -0700

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 14 Feb 2001 12:21:04 -0700, Chris Webster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> Yea.
> >> Run Windows instead of Linsux .
> >>
> >> Or, do without your hardware like most Linux users.
> 
>         I have been using a USB keyboard, mouse and joystick for 12 months.
> 
>         I have been using fully suppported 3D gaming cards of various kinds
>         for over 2 years.
> 
>         I have been using a flatbed scanner and video overlay card for
>         over 2 years.
> 
>         What is it that I'm supposed to be missing?

Just Winmodems, if that's considered a flaw....   ;^)

--Chris

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From: Chris Webster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux changed my FAT table desc??
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 13:04:59 -0700


> Disk A: Linux
> Disk B: FAT32 ( NO OS installed, just files )
> 
> Disk B was last mount under linux as vfat.. Only mounted, no writing
> to the disk was done.
> 
> I blew away Disk A.. fdisk'ed formatted loaded WIN98.. eventually
> will load Linux on Disk A to dual boot..
> 
> The thing is .... Disk B does not show up in my computer??
> 
> The BIOS recognizes the Disk B, Fdisk see's Disk B, BUT the type
> shows up as non-DOS!?!?!?!?!?
> 
> Did Linux update the FAT table in some way from just mounting the
> disk????

No.  Did you unmount it before removing it?  This would cause an fdisk
to be done at the next boot.  The *only* thing that changes the
partition table is fdisk.  What is the new type?

--Chris

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From: "Mordak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Can I use my ATA/100 hard drive with my ATA/66 controller motherboard?
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 20:11:53 GMT

It's an IDE Hard drive controller. It worked fine with windows but SuSE
didn't have any drives so I removed it until I can use it again.
Incidentally, it came with a special driver disc for windows because I got
it when the ATA/100 drives were just starting to come out. CompUSA had it
before the hard drives.
Mordak

"John Culleton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
|
| >compatibility issue. I do have a CMD ATA/100 PCI Card but I don't believe
it
| >has any Linux drivers at this point. At least not that I have found.
| >Thanks,
| >Mordak
|
| In general ATA devices are supported by recent kernels. And PCI is no
sweat
| with recent kernels.  What does the CMD card do? Is it an HD controller,
an
| Ethernet NIC or what?
|
| John Culleton
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: George Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Simple Question on File Extension
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 15:15:47 -0500

O.K. Thanks.  It was a file in a cgi-bin directory.

If I may ask, what is the usual file extension for an executable file?  I
thought later maybe it was some kind of executable file.

George

Lew Pitcher wrote:

> On Wed, 14 Feb 2001 13:59:38 -0500, George Bell
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Hi,
> >
> >   My linux is a little rusty.  I've come across a linux/unix type file
> >with a .sh extension.  That is, the file is called "somefile.sh"
> >Can anyone please tell me what kind of file this is?  Is it a script
> >file, a log file, ???
>
> It's likely a shell script file.
>
> I say 'likely' because Linux, like Unix, doesn't depend on 'file
> types' to delimit the type of file. somefile.sh could be a "SHared"
> file under some user's off-beat naming convention.
>
> Lew Pitcher
> Information Technology Consultant
> Toronto Dominion Bank Financial Group
>
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>
> (Opinions expressed are my own, not my employer's.)

--
**********************
The Truth is Out There



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lew Pitcher)
Subject: Re: Simple Question on File Extension
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 20:22:32 GMT

On Wed, 14 Feb 2001 15:15:47 -0500, George Bell
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>O.K. Thanks.  It was a file in a cgi-bin directory.
>
>If I may ask, what is the usual file extension for an executable file?  I
>thought later maybe it was some kind of executable file.

So long as the proper interpreter is recognized by the system, _any_
file can be executed, regardless of filename. Executable files have
their 'execute permission' bit (or bits) set, and must be recognized
by the system as an executable file (i.e. ELF binary, or interpreted
by a known interpreter).

For instance, given the file "a.b", which has contents
  #!/bin/bash
  echo This is a test

this file can either be executable or not, by the condition of it's
execute bits.
  chmod a+x a.b
will set the execute bits on, making the script 'world' executable and
  chmod a-x a.b
will turn them off, making the script just another text file.

Even 'executable binary' files (i.e. the equivalent of MSDOS .EXE
files) must have their execute permission set to be considered
executable programs. Without that, these files become just another
binary data file to the OS.



>George
>
>Lew Pitcher wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 14 Feb 2001 13:59:38 -0500, George Bell
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> >Hi,
>> >
>> >   My linux is a little rusty.  I've come across a linux/unix type file
>> >with a .sh extension.  That is, the file is called "somefile.sh"
>> >Can anyone please tell me what kind of file this is?  Is it a script
>> >file, a log file, ???
>>
>> It's likely a shell script file.
>>
>> I say 'likely' because Linux, like Unix, doesn't depend on 'file
>> types' to delimit the type of file. somefile.sh could be a "SHared"
>> file under some user's off-beat naming convention.
>>
>> Lew Pitcher
>> Information Technology Consultant
>> Toronto Dominion Bank Financial Group
>>
>> ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>>
>> (Opinions expressed are my own, not my employer's.)
>
>--
>**********************
>The Truth is Out There
>
>


Lew Pitcher
Information Technology Consultant
Toronto Dominion Bank Financial Group

([EMAIL PROTECTED])


(Opinions expressed are my own, not my employer's.)

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From: Philip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Removing Lilo
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 20:39:20 GMT

We installed RH on a computer to determine whether the hardware is
compatible with RH.  Then decided to install NT4 instead.  After the
install the system boots to LI then hangs.  We have reformated the HD
using Partition Magic and are still running into this problem.


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From: "Booster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Software RAID on ReiserFS (?)
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 21:40:04 +0100

Yes and yes.

I have 2 software raid 0 (root + 2nd raid in /mnt) on mandrake 7.2.

Install in expert mode, then you get diskdrake with extended functions.
Select the partition, and put "Linux RAID" for TYPE.
Then add each partition to the raid.
Then select the raid, and chose reiserfs as filesystem, and you are done.

CU Booster


Dans l'article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Donovan
Rebbechi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a �crit :

> I'm wondering if anyone's tried configuring a software RAID on ReiserFS.
> 
> We're currently using software RAID (5) with 4 IDE drives. The problem 
> with putting the RAID on ext2 is that it takes forever to boot up if
> there's a power outage (it causes about 2 hours of downtime)
> 
> I'd be interested to know if anyone's done this.
> 
> Also, does Mandrake 7.2 include support for ReiserFS ?
>

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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.advocacy,redhat.networking.general
Subject: Re: RH7/3Com and 3Com Mini PCI Ethernet adapter
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 15:59:24 -0500



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 14 Feb 2001 12:21:04 -0700, Chris Webster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> Yea.
> >> Run Windows instead of Linsux .
> >>
> >> Or, do without your hardware like most Linux users.
> 
>         I have been using a USB keyboard, mouse and joystick for 12 months.
> 
>         I have been using fully suppported 3D gaming cards of various kinds
>         for over 2 years.
> 
>         I have been using a flatbed scanner and video overlay card for
>         over 2 years.
> 
>         What is it that I'm supposed to be missing?

Blue screens of death.


> 
> >
> >Hmmm, still waiting for Win98 to support my USB Jumpshot card reader.
> 
> --
> 
>           The LGPL does infact tend to be used instead of the GPL in instances
>           where merely reusing a component, while not actually altering that
>           component, would be unecessarily burdensome to people seeking to
>         build their own works.
> 
>           This dramatically alters the nature and usefulness of Free Software
>           in practice, contrary to the 'all viral all the time' fantasy the
>           anti-GPL cabal here would prefer one to believe.
>                                                                 |||
>                                                                / | \

-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.advocacy,redhat.networking.general
Subject: Re: RH7/3Com and 3Com Mini PCI Ethernet adapter
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 16:00:24 -0500



Chris Webster wrote:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 14 Feb 2001 12:21:04 -0700, Chris Webster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Yea.
> > >> Run Windows instead of Linsux .
> > >>
> > >> Or, do without your hardware like most Linux users.
> >
> >         I have been using a USB keyboard, mouse and joystick for 12 months.
> >
> >         I have been using fully suppported 3D gaming cards of various kinds
> >         for over 2 years.
> >
> >         I have been using a flatbed scanner and video overlay card for
> >         over 2 years.
> >
> >         What is it that I'm supposed to be missing?
> 
> Just Winmodems, if that's considered a flaw....   ;^)

Actually, there are drivers for LOSEmodems now, too.


> 
> --Chris

-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

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From: Emmanuel Beranger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.windows.x.kde
Subject: What is wrong with 2.2.18mdk and Kmix (mixer KDE 1) ?
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 22:00:28 -0500

Both kernels are mandrake rpms ...
Under 2.2.18, I get a message box saying "Kmix : can't write to mixer"

Any idea or log file I should look for ?

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From: "Mark Hadfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 09:45:56 +1300

"John Hasler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I wrote:
> > How do theists explain God?
>
> Stefan writes:
> > I'd like to know that too.. but they usually don't.
>
> Thus they multiply their hypotheses needlessly.

Off topic?

---
Mark Hadfield
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://katipo.niwa.cri.nz/~hadfield
National Institute for Water and Atmospheric Research




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From: Sinner from the Prairy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 2.2.17 kernel and usb
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 16:09:44 -0500

Alan Needleman wrote:
 
> > I strongly recommend you the 2.2.18 kernel.

> > It includes the 2.4.x usb-compatibility backported to the 2.2.x series.
 
> So does 2.2.17-14 which I got to work by downloading the kernel-source
> rpm.

In fact, the 2.2.17-14 mandrake kernel only includes partial usb
support. This support is only good for usb-keyboards and usb-mices. 

> Thanks for the info about 2.2.18, because 2.2.17-14 may be flakey, given
> the installation.


Salut,
Sinner
-- 
http://www.geocities.com/sinner_prairy
[MaDuiXa PoWeR] http://www.maduixa.net
__________________
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=====Sinner==== >=--[]>- a Mach 2.5!!  Running on Mandrake 7.2
__________________|/                     Linux Machine # 38068

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