Linux-Misc Digest #867, Volume #27 Tue, 15 May 01 15:13:01 EDT
Contents:
Disk/Raid problems? ("Tim J. Corcoran")
Re: My Linux Experience ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: load average (John Hasler)
Re: Disk errors with kernel 2.4.2 (Vladimir Florinski)
Sound problem -> warnings about modules ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: memory usage (Yvan Loranger)
Re: Compile GCC 2.95.3 in RedHat 7.0 failed !! ("Peter T. Breuer")
Xfree x KDE/Gnome (Andr�)
Re: eth0 configuration problem (Markku Kolkka)
Re: Xfree x KDE/Gnome (Bob Raymond)
Re: Disk errors with kernel 2.4.2 (Stephen Rank)
Re: kgcc, where is it in rh 7.1? ("SilentNight")
Re: My Linux Experience ("SilentNight")
Re: Xfree x KDE/Gnome ("Rene M�rten")
Re: add new user , loose Word Perfect license number (J. Taylor)
sendmail problems ("S. Holl")
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From: "Tim J. Corcoran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Disk/Raid problems?
Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 16:12:16 GMT
I have a site server running RH7.0. I also run raid1 & 5 on my root and
opt partitions respectively. We had a server hang (the first ever) over
last weekend that showed the following output. After scouring the box I
found nothing that showed any real problem. Fearing a hardware problem
we rebooted. Over the past 48 hours I have seen this appear thousands
of times in my messages log. Is this an error? Should I be worried?
How can I track down where the problem is? I can only guess that I may
be seeing a hardware error on the IDE 1 bus....
May 15 08:10:19 cds12 kernel: Flags; bus-master 1, full 0; dirty
1252881(1) current 1252881(1).
May 15 08:10:19 cds12 kernel: Transmit list 00000000 vs. efde9210.
May 15 08:10:20 cds12 kernel: 0: @efde9200 length 800005e6 status
800105e6
May 15 08:10:20 cds12 kernel: 1: @efde9210 length 800005e6 status
000105e6
May 15 08:10:20 cds12 kernel: 2: @efde9220 length 800005e6 status
000105e6
May 15 08:10:20 cds12 kernel: 3: @efde9230 length 800005e6 status
000105e6
May 15 08:10:20 cds12 kernel: 4: @efde9240 length 800005e6 status
000105e6
May 15 08:10:20 cds12 kernel: 5: @efde9250 length 800005e6 status
000105e6
May 15 08:10:20 cds12 kernel: 6: @efde9260 length 800005e6 status
000105e6
May 15 08:10:20 cds12 kernel: 7: @efde9270 length 800005e6 status
000105e6
May 15 08:10:20 cds12 kernel: 8: @efde9280 length 800005e6 status
000105e6
May 15 08:10:20 cds12 kernel: 9: @efde9290 length 800005e6 status
000105e6
May 15 08:10:20 cds12 kernel: 10: @efde92a0 length 800005e6 status
000105e6
May 15 08:10:20 cds12 kernel: 11: @efde92b0 length 800005e6 status
000105e6
May 15 08:10:20 cds12 kernel: 12: @efde92c0 length 800005e6 status
000105e6
May 15 08:10:20 cds12 kernel: 13: @efde92d0 length 800005e6 status
000105e6
May 15 08:10:20 cds12 kernel: 14: @efde92e0 length 800005e6 status
000105e6
May 15 08:10:20 cds12 kernel: 15: @efde92f0 length 800005e6 status
000105e6
-Tim
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: My Linux Experience
Date: 15 May 2001 09:41:19 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve) writes:
> On 15 May 2001 03:51:59 GMT, Robert Heller wrote:
>
> >*I* have no problems with the Epson Colour Stylus 600 I bought from my
> >mom. Set up a ghostscript filter with the uniprint driver. I in fact
> >have two print queues: color (1440x720DpI) and fastcolor (720x720DpI).
> >(RH 5.2, GS 5.10 (1998-12-17))
>
> Mine was the 300, on RH6.2.
>
> >I don't use Star Office -- I use LaTeX and things work just fine.
>
> I'll look into LaTeX, I always wanted to learn about it but never
> got round ot it, this might just give me the push I need.
>
> --
> Cheers
> Steve email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
...<snip>...
I have an epson stylus color 600 also. I can get it to print, even in
high res, however, in high res it's very inefficient, lots of head movement
back and forth, very slow. Under Windows 3.1, using native drivers, it
was much better. My understanding is Epson didn't offer much help in
the development of windows drivers, though for other products (scanners?)
they were helpful. Maybe I just have an old version of ghostview (3.5.8
that came with Slackware 7.1).
As far as LaTex is concerned, I'm actually more comfortable with TeX, and
my daughter likes LyX. Give all three a try.
--
Replace ragwind.localdomain with rahul for a working email address
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: load average
Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 14:46:03 GMT
SammyTheSnake writes:
> Conclusion? I figure I was lower on memory than you, IIRC I only had 64MB
> at the time,...
I've got 384M, which is just barely enough to get away with 'make -j'-ing
a 2.2 kernel. You must have had almost all of your 200 or so make
processes in swap.
> Another thing is that it wasn't the fastest of CPUs either, which may
> have made the situation worse (k6-266 I think)...
I've got two PIII-500's. No longer a particularly hot machine, but still
fast. The other thing that makes a high loadaverage tolerable on this box
is the 10k SCSI drive.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI
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From: Vladimir Florinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Disk errors with kernel 2.4.2
Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 09:33:33 -0700
Vladimir Florinski wrote:
>
> is defective. The log file would occasionally have this message:
>
> hda: status error: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest }
> hda: drive not ready for command
>
> The disk is a brand new 40GB IBM 60GXP series (ATA-100), using dma
> transfers (up to 33MB/s, I presume, since this is a BX chipset)
>
> /dev/hda:
>
> Model=IC35L040AVER07-0, FwRev=ER4OA41A, SerialNo=SX0SXLL6552 Config={
> HardSect NotMFM HdSw>15uSec Fixed DTR>10Mbs } RawCHS=16383/16/63,
> TrkSize=0, SectSize=0, ECCbytes=40 BuffType=DualPortCache,
> BuffSize=1916kB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=16 CurCHS=4047/16/255,
> CurSects=-217054981, LBA=yes, LBAsects=80418240 IORDY=on/off,
> tPIO={min:240,w/IORDY:120}, tDMA={min:120,rec:120} PIO modes: pio0 pio1
> pio2 pio3 pio4
> DMA modes: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2 udma0 udma1 *udma2 udma3 udma4 udma5
>
Well, I found this is similar to the bug #27614 (from the RedHat's bugzilla).
Someone reported this 0x58 error and the reply was that it's caused by using
higher DMA modes and may be caused by cables. But I am not using higher modes
since the BX can only do 33MB/s (mode2, I think). Cables are old style (40-pin),
but why would they be a problem?
Of course, I could turn DMA off, but this would cancel all advantages of having
a fast hard drive. The transfer rate without DMA is only 4MB/s, while it's
almost 20MB/s with DMA.
--
Vladimir
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Sound problem -> warnings about modules
Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 16:55:01 GMT
I have installed SuSE 7.1 on my PC with the soundcard SB128 using YAST2 and
alsaconf. In the file /var/log/warn I have the following warnings:
modprobe: Can't locate module snd-card-1
modprobe: Can't locate module snd-card-2
modprobe: Can't locate module snd-card-3
modprobe: Can't locate module sound-slot-1
modprobe: Can't locate module sound-service-1-0
modprobe: Can't locate module sound-slot-2
modprobe: Can't locate module sound-service-2-3
modprobe: Can't locate module sound-slot-3
modprobe: Can't locate module sound-service-3-3
modprobe: Can't locate module char-major-145
As far as I can see the following was changed in /etc/modules.conf when
I installed the soundcard:
#
# YaST2: sound cards support
#
alias char-major-116 snd
options snd snd_cards_limit=1 snd_major=116
alias snd-card-0 snd-card-ens1370
options snd-card-ens1370 snd_id=card1 snd_index=0
#
# YaST2: sound system dependent part
#
alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-11 snd-mixer-oss
alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss
So can someone help me eliminate the warning messages? I don't even know
where to start searching for the problem.
Bernd
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yvan Loranger)
Subject: Re: memory usage
Date: 15 May 2001 17:04:55 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yvan Loranger)
nordi ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes:
> Wong Ching Kuen Frederick wrote:
>
>> using top, i get the following memory usage?! can anyone tell me what is
>> the diff between used, free, shrd, buff and cached?! how can i know when i
>> should add more memory to my system?! many thanks.
>
> used: sum of all memory usage (pretty unimportant IMO)
> free: free memory (unimportant as well)
> shrd: shared memory (libraries I guess)
> buff: buffers (especially big if you are doing a lot of stuff on your disk)
> cached: memory used for disk caching
>
> The number that really interests you is used-buff-cached because
> this is the amount of memory really used up by programs directly. You can
> get this number by running "free", it will give you a line that says
> -/+buffers/cache which contains that information.
Took me awhile to see that his 'used-buff-cached' means subtraction.
>> 2:18pm up 10 days, 3:03, 1 user, load average: 0.10, 0.04, 0.01
>> 47 processes: 46 sleeping, 1 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped
>> CPU states: 0.9% user, 0.4% system, 0.0% nice, 0.4% idle
>> Mem: 126596K av, 124668K used, 1928K free, 0K shrd, 964K
>> buff
>> Swap: 72284K av, 9984K used, 62300K free 81380K
>> cached
>
> Looks like you are really using a lot of memory (121M out of 126M used). If
> that's normal for your machine you should consider getting more RAM. 128M
> is not that expensive.
probable poppycock! didn't you notice the 80MB used for cache? Swapping is
the excellent indicator for buying more ram.
--
Merci........Yvan Pour le plein air: Club Vertige
http://www.ncf.ca/vertige
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Compile GCC 2.95.3 in RedHat 7.0 failed !!
Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 18:58:15 +0200
Christian Rose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes it is. You may disregard from what I'm saying, but most people
> actually using gcc 2.96 will tell you the same thing. It doesn't become
> untested and unreliable just because you say so.
It doesn't become tested and reliable because YOU say so, you mean!
The burden of proof is with people who claim that is so, not with me.
And anyway, we know that the problem is that it is "incompatible",
"nonstandard", etc. etc.
>> It was not released by the gcc team.
> True. Thet doesn't change the fact that it can be (and is) a tested and
> reliable compiler nevertheless.
Gcc's (real) compilers are tested on every platform by thousands of people.
That's their guarantee.
> So, how does it work with gcc 2.96-81? Have you actually tried it?
No, once bitten, twice shy. People who can _put out_ that sort of thing
in the first place lose whatever trust they had stocked up.
>> The difference is minor.
> No, they aren't. One works and one doesn't.
You think it works. As we know ...
> It was. There were some rare instances were correct code wouldn't
> compile, those issues were fixed with the gcc errata. There is no
> perfect compiler.
There is none. Issues of compliance with one standard or the other in
terms of what source they compile and what semantics they assign to it
is important, but the most important thing is that the common core
of the language is correctly transformed into functioning code. That
is not known for this compiler.
>> > are equal. Please don't ignore such facts (although you do that all the
>> > time anyway).
>>
>> Saying they are "facts" does not make them so, especially when they are
>> not so.
> They are facts. Nothing you have come with so far could even remotely be
> called "a fact" (more of the kind "blatant lie").
We are not discussing facts, but opinions and evaluations. In such a
context facts serve as the basis of the discussion - and I agree, there
are few of them. I relate my own evaulation, based on trials and tests.
>> Did it pass gcc's own regression tests?
> The gcc steering committe did not officially release it, and you know
> that. You also know that releasing a compiler without regression testing
> would be stupid, and you also know that a lot of the gcc people are
> actually Red Hat people and most certainly know how that testing is
No I do not. My sincere impression is that RH do not test.
> made. Now go figure. Not that the gcc steering committee would ever
> admit that it passed tests, since they didn't do the testing.
If they don't, then I won't.
>> Can it YET compile gcc 2.95? Can it yet compile a kernel reliably? The answer
>> is NO to both of those.
> You're spouting out lies. Not only are you calling me a liar since I've
> successfully compiled kernels with gcc 2.96, you're also calling
> everybody else that has done the same a liar. More people than me in
The answer is that it cannot compile kernels correctly.
That you don't know that is one problem. Furthermore the problem is
not really that it cannot, but that that it's not surprising. For
as you know, no compiler is bugfree. Often it takes years to find bugs.
The strength-reduce bug in gcc 2.7.2 is an example. That is why the
compiler that is used is not really so important - what is important is
that it be the same compiler, so that everyone can see, avoid and
correct the same bugs. That is why redhat are said to be behaving
like mavericks.
> this thread know for a fact that compiling 2.4 kernels with gcc 2.96
> works just fine, and has said so.
> Please go troll somewhere else, your stupid FUD ramblings are no fun to
> anyone.
You would do better to argue, rather than calling names. It's you who
give me the distinct impression of spewing forth the FUD and
disinfomation.
> Christian
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From: Andr� <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Xfree x KDE/Gnome
Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 14:16:00 -0300
If I downloaded a new version of X, do I have to recompile KDE and
Gnome?
--
� Andr�
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From: Markku Kolkka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: eth0 configuration problem
Date: 15 May 2001 20:22:18 +0300
"Karel Claessens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Configuring the kernel I noticed that I couldn't select the RTL8139 module.
Most likely you didn't select some other option the module requires.
--
Markku Kolkka
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Bob Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Xfree x KDE/Gnome
Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 13:31:12 -0400
Andr� wrote:
> If I downloaded a new version of X, do I have to recompile KDE and
> Gnome?
>
> --
> � Andr�
>
no
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From: Stephen Rank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Disk errors with kernel 2.4.2
Date: 15 May 2001 18:35:12 +0100
Vladimir Florinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [ ... ]
> I doubt a 2.2 kernel would be a drop-in replacement for the 2.4.2 in
> the new RedHat. It would break initscripts and a lot of tool would
> probably stop to work (procps, util-linux, etc.) I also like certain
> new features in 2.4 such as drm modules, new video4linux and better
> PCI modem support. Well, it's sad that Linux has evolved to become
> an unstable OS.
There are known file-system bugs in 2.4.N for N < 4, so the OP will
need to update his/her (sorry; the original post hasn't made it here
yet) kernel.
If you want a stable OS, use 2.2. If you want bleeding edge, be
prepared to put up with the odd cut :) That's the way software works;
there's no such thing as a finished version, nor a stable OS :) You
can't have your cake and eat it!
Stephen
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From: "SilentNight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: kgcc, where is it in rh 7.1?
Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 03:17:00 +0900
"SilentNight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9doc0k$dog$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> "Dave Uhring" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Bluesky wrote:
> >
> > > I also check, and install all compat*.*, in both cd 1 & 2, they seem
> > > to be different, yet the message is that they are already installed.
> > >
> > > Can I just rename the reference in Makefile from gcc to kgcc,
> > > as some gentleman pointed out some time ago ?
> > >
> > > TIA
> > >
> > > SN
> > >
> > > ---
> > >
> > > "Dave Uhring" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >> John Doe wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Can someone tell me how I
> > >> > can install kgcc for redhat 7.1?
> > >> >
> > >> > I looked under RPMS directories
> > >> > with cheapbytes cds 1 and 2 and
> > >> > cannot find anything named kgcc
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> Look under 'compat'
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Here are the compat packages which I have installed
> >
> > compat-egcs-g77-6.2-1.1.2.14
> > compat-egcs-c++-6.2-1.1.2.14
> > compat-glibc-6.2-2.1.3.2
> > compat-egcs-6.2-1.1.2.14
> > compat-libs-6.2-3
> > compat-libstdc++-6.2-2.9.0.14
> > compat-egcs-objc-6.2-1.1.2.14
> >
> > If you don't have the compat-egcs-6.2-1.1.2.14 installed, then you don't
> > have kgcc.
> >
>
> Thank you very much. It is very helpful for me to check mine.
>
> SN
>
yes, I found all the files as you listed here.
Thank you. By the way, using kgcc to re-compile kernel, I got the flash at
reboot
that kernel 2.4.4 is running; yet, checking with rpm -q kernel, still
2.4.2-2 is the answer.
Another thing is that, it seems RH is very unstable with 2.4.4, and there is
not much
different from 2.4.2-2. Probably I will wait until RH 7.2 to see support for
usb is better.
SN
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From: "SilentNight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: My Linux Experience
Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 03:34:58 +0900
"Jim Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9dpc8a$ad9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Having two-thirds of an old PC and realising that I could experiment with
> Linux for free, I recently set out to see what I could achieve with it. I
> chose to try Redhat 7.0 and bought a couple of hefty books to help me
along.
> Here is what I achieved and failed at:
>
> - installed without much trouble
> - configured X Windows with small difficulty (due to an old video card?)
> - installed an Ethernet card with some difficulty (getting the Tulip
driver
> to work took one week of my spare time)
> - configured Samba for file-sharing with my Windows PC in both directions
> (simple and rewarding - initially)
> - unable to get SWAT to work
> - configured Apache to serve locally my web-site (reasonably
> straightforward)
> - unable to get any response from a printer (Epson Stylus) connected to
the
> parallel port
> - frustrating mixed results with an external Hayes modem connected to a
> serial port (I could dial, connect and run PPP manually using Minicom, but
> most attempts to configure and run PPP from the shell failed. The modem
just
> failed to respond to any AT commands. Annoyingly, it did work for a short
> while after running the RH PPP configurator but later stopped again,
despite
> not making significant changes to the config files)
>
> Also, after flawless performance for a couple of weeks the Samba shared
> folder stopped working properly. Small files transfer easily from Linux to
> Windows but larger files just stopped getting through.
>
> I have decided that I would like to succeed with Linux in order to give me
a
> local web server, a firewall to the internet, a second on-line printer and
> perhaps mail services. I also find that it is a great catalyst for
learning
> much about networking, mail systems and computers in general.
>
> The problem is that I find many tasks that ought to be simple, or at least
> possible after research and effort, to be insoluble. This is despite my
long
> acquaintance with PCs under DOS and Windows, despite the fact that I am
much
> above average in aptitude, despite the wide research and reading that I
have
> done on the internet, in news groups, in magazines and in books and
despite
> the very large number of hours devoted over the past two months. My
> diligence in attempting to solve my own problems has been significant.
>
> I don't write to seek help on my specific difficulties but to ask this
> general question: are my experiences common? If they are then I would
> conclude that Linux is far too difficult to use to gain wide-spread
> acceptance outside professional server roles at its current stage of
> development. If not then perhaps I have faulty hardware, a dodgy
> distribution or a peculiar clouding of the mind where Linux is concerned.
>
> I'd be grateful to hear other people's comments.
>
>
I have the same experience in last few months. I read a lot before really
installing
RH 6.0, 7.0 and 7.1, so the reading pay off abit.
Yet, as you said, there is some catalyst, or incentive ?, to learn Linux,
there are lots of things that should be done in a simpler way.
More apps for Linux are in need of development before Linux can become
popular. A joke I read somewhere is that, Linux can be recommended to
(our) grandparents.
In general, I agree with you very much
SN
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From: "Rene M�rten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Xfree x KDE/Gnome
Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 19:41:47 +0200
Andr� <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> If I downloaded a new version of X, do I have to recompile KDE and
> Gnome?
you have nothing to recompile. only upgrade to xfree4.xx. kde or other WM`s
will be runnig fine
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From: J. Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: add new user , loose Word Perfect license number
Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 18:47:53 GMT
No direct answer to present problem but for the future. Always, if=20
possible, make a clone of any master CD's and put away the originals. =20=
Write the key, s/n, whatever is needed to instal the software on the=20=
original and the working copy as well as on the box or container it is=20=
stored in. I also maintain a master log, along with email addresses,=20=
passwords, system configurations, etc. with these keys against=20
possible loss. Kept in so many places I have, so far, not lost one=20
yet. By the way if the software is particularly critical I will do=20
two copies with the original off site, copy one in a safe and copy two=20=
kept for general use. Parnoid? 40 years has taught that when=20
something is really important that is the one that is lost first.
Good luck.
James
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
On 5/14/01, 8:22:26 PM, "tvn1981" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote=20
regarding add new user , loose Word Perfect license number:
> Hi ,
> I add new user to my computer and want to run WP Personal Edition on=20=
it ,
> but it requires to input the license number (which I no longer have).=
> How can I restore this license # other than re-register
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From: "S. Holl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: sendmail problems
Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 21:04:37 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
hi there.
can anybody tell me, where i can configure sendmail to send the queued
mails every 15 minutes to the smarthost. i already got this somedays,
but then changed it because of the expensive dial-outs. now i got
dsl-flat, but i forgot how to restore the setting.
thanks for your help.
steph
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