I think there's still a spirit of what "real programmers" may or may not do, and one thing is for sure "real programmers" don't use GUI IDEs
But then who am I to speak -- creating webpages in PICK BASIC as I write, (or should be). The 1982 version here is different to the one I saw in the 70's http://www.multicians.org/thvv/realprogs.html Olwen Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -----Original Message----- From: Jim Cheetham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, 2004-04-02 at 08:57, Don Gould wrote: > I've yet to actually see a fully interactive GUI based development and > debugging enviornment such as you get with VB, ASP (Visual Interdev) and the > rest of the Microsoft tools. You're probably right. In the OSS world, if it hasn't been written, either it's not efficient given the current technology base, or "no-one" really wants it ... one of the current problems in Linux circles is that many advocates want "everyone" to use Linux, but can't do the work to make that happen themselves, and have to try to convince other developers to do it for them. And they're not convincing enough ..... snipped. ____________________________________________________________________ CAUTION - This message may contain privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message is prohibited. If you have received this message in error please notify Safe Air Ltd immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of Safe Air. _____________________________________________________________________ For more information on the Safe Air Group, visit us online at http://www.safeair.co.nz/ _____________________________________________________________________
