> Maybe because those "geek-fascists" (aka "real programmers") are the people
> who wrote the system, and wrote the tools. Tools that _they_ would want to
> use. Which is sensible (from their point of view), no?
>
> If these others (the "real people" you speak of) who like flashy gui tools
> really are "real programmers", perhaps they'll write their own tools ;-)

!
Though it pisses me off no end to admit it - you have a fairly unassailable 
position there. I am certainly working on my geek status but suffer from a 
Lincoln degree so have not really had any proper geek training. I suppose all 
the real geek-fascist leaders would have been writing entire apps blindfolded 
using their noses by the time they were 7, but I am trying my best.
*-)
Anton

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