Hi John and Ian,

Agreed, it seemed like there was some discussion around fees for members some 
months ago after the NCF $$ hand-over.

If Dianne is volunteering to help with this, I think we would be foolish to not 
accept such an offer.
Dianne, if you need any help, please let me know.

Btw Ian, do you still have that snazzy license plate?

-Katie


________________________________
From: Nash JC - NCF <nas...@ncf.ca>
Sent: 25 January 2024 18:10
To: Katherine Mcmillan <kmcmi...@uottawa.ca>; jfmess...@gmail.com 
<jfmess...@gmail.com>; Ian! D. Allen <idal...@idallen.ca>
Cc: Linux-Ottawa <linux@linux-ottawa.org>
Subject: Re: [linux] Linux-Ottawa / NCF collaboration

Attention : courriel externe | external email

As far as I am aware, there's no intent that Linux-Ottawa folk should have to 
pay
for joining a mailing list. There was a note in one earlier post (some months 
ago)
that NCF had some legacy setup that restricted some of their facilities to 
"members"
and that we might have to sort out details.

JN

On 2024-01-25 16:54, Katherine Mcmillan wrote:
> I am in agreement with JF
>
> Sincerely,
> Katie
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Jean-Francois Messier <jfmess...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 25, 2024 4:50:33 PM
> *To:* Ian! D. Allen <idal...@idallen.ca>
> *Cc:* Linux-Ottawa <linux@linux-ottawa.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [linux] Linux-Ottawa / NCF collaboration
> *Attention : courriel externe | external email*
> I would call this a MAJOR obstacle. If Freenet/NCF is hoping to get money 
> from everyone joining this list on an annual
> basis, although OCLUG gave them thousands of dollars already, we should 
> dissociate from Freenet/NCF. The decision to
> send the money to NCF was an honest mistake, but let's not keep our 
> dependency on NCF. Who knows what else they will ask
> from the members in the future ?
>
> On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 4:37 PM Ian! D. Allen <idal...@idallen.ca 
> <mailto:idal...@idallen.ca>> wrote:
>
>     Re:
>
>     - Yes, I'd call it an obstacle
>     - I agree [...] Is not going to work.
>     - I agree.  While the money is not a problem for me it is sort of 
> offensive.
>
>     The new person joining does not have to pay this fee.  Imagine this:
>
>     "Hello and welcome to OCLUG.  We have teamed up with the local Free-Net
>     to sponsor a mailing list account for you so that you may participate
>     in discussions around Linux and other Free-Libre Open Source Software
>     [FLOSS].  We hope that at some point you become a paid-up member of
>     OCLUG to help support this and other FLOSS projects.  Welcome aboard."
>
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