On Sunday 15 January 2012 20:20:02 Rony wrote: > In order to end this discussion conclusively, I would like to know from > list members including JTD and Binand, which lesser known pure Chinese > brand do they use in their homes and offices in the following categories > listed below. Please mention only the Chinese brand/s against the > categories.
Misleading Polls. Ask the wrong question and get the wrong answer. Ask the wrong people and get even worse answers. > > 1. Refrigerator. Allwyn. Yeah the ancient one which keeps working after 40 years. > > 2. Colour TV CRT. Onida clone retired after 7 years in 1997 and lying in a corner for occasional CCTV testing, working even now. Prior to that we had no television. We had PC xt 4.77 Mhz 640K ram ;-E. No name chinese mobo and Genius mouse (Taiwan). The PC worked until 1997 (1984-1997) after which it too was retired, when the branded seagate disk failed LOL. The PSU was locally made in Andheri MIDC. The box by another noname at Goregaon. The monitor was by yet another noname, which later was known as Prompt computers. > 3. Colour TV LCD/LED. LG made in China - the 32 inch LCD panel is also made in china ! > > 4. Washing machine. annoynmous chinese whose factory I had visited. Worked from 1996 to 2007. At which point someone gifted my mom a LG. The anon chinese was whisked away by my maid (afair). > 5. Microwave Oven. Never used one > > 6. Air Conditioner. At my old office: annoymous Indian made with annoymous Chinese parts worked from 1997 to 2008 and sold off to annoymous indian, who proly painted it and sold it yet another annoymous Indian. Currently dont use an AC as the office is well ventilated. Never used an Ac at home. > > 7. HiFi Music System. Made by mostly anonymous Indian - ME. Including Speakers made by my brother in 1980. One of my friends came by last week after 24 years and heard the same speakers. He owns a Bose now. But swore that these sounded as good if not better. Current top of the line speakers costing 10 times more do sound a little better. But these are really good and natural sounding. BTW I intend to build an electrostatic and a plasma to replace these this year (time permitting) > > 8. Digital Still Camera. Dont have one. But the ones at home purchased by my brother are branded and made in China. > > 9. Video Camera (not-webcam). Same as above (Sony afaik) > 10. DVD Player and/or Home Theater. HTPC with asus mobo and AMD cpu. Both made in chine. HDD seagate made in Chine DVD LG (actually TST Corp - Chine - which makes ALL indian sold DVDs for pc and almost all the dvd players). Runs on Branded os named Debian. Arrgh the disk crashed (due to the stupid MSEB) so I have a temp disk with Ubuntu, But will be switching to my favourite as soon as I get time. Projector Benq > > 11. Laptop 14" and above. No name chinese Screen printed Iballs. 2002 to present. Battery gone and a bit tattered, having toured India with assorted engineers. But working very well. > > 12. Mobile Phone in smart phone category. iPhone duplicate LOL made in China. worked for 3 years. Until the battery looked like a pregnant pig. It is working even now with the charger connected. But I switched over to Samsung Galaxy Y the cheapest phone (Rs.6700) that I can get rid of android and use cyanogen. > > 13. Game console if any. > > 14. Tablet PCs 10" or above. (Don't include 7" ones) 10" noname chinese. But only one sample. Lots of 7" noname chinese with Debian Squeeze at my office. 10" tablets and netbooks coming soooon. With Android or Debian. > > 15. Printers or All-in-Ones. Printer HP. Earlier Epson 132 col all chinese components and made in China. all in one HAHAHA. Made by mostly anonymous my wife and I. The damned thing would kick ass even now. Worked from 1991 to 1997. Was retired fully working. In 2006 I opened the thing, to discover the lithium battery had leaked and chewed up the PCB. BUT the ccd sensor and printhead was Kyocera Japan. stepper motors Epson Japan, CPU Zilog Z80. FPGA Altera taiwan, Mobo no name Taiwan AMD SX386. Passives Keltron/Philips. PCB Indian. Software Indian. Ofcourse in 1991 it wasnt China ( it's a bit complicated but we will let that pass) but Taiwan and Korea which were the least cost guys. > > > Thanks for your cooperation and inputs in advance. As you can seethe noname brands work very well, infact better than the branded stuff most of the time. And the branded stuff ALL - 100% of them - made in China with chinese components. In japan a Sony product made in Japan costs more tha twice as much as the same model made in China. Japan is the only place where the Japanese brands also sell made in Japan stuff. some people - mostly japanese - will buy only made in Japan. Get over your hangover that Brands mean anything more than the T & A show plastered on tv and hoardings. It is the biggest con game going around. Small wonder that several nordic countries fine you in the millions for any ad targeted at kids. Just to remind you, the computing industry was powered by innovation from noname geniuses and had 100s of thriving products and addons. Many of those nonames became huge brands and folded up eventually. The nonames who remained nonames continued innovating and morphed into all sorts of stuff. A few nonames which became big names were throttled by a raddi software engineer. But some who survived are screwing his company like never before. -- Rgds JTD -- http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
