I just think it's funny that both of you who are such staunch linux supporters have excuses for not using Android devices...
While I agree that Google is not completely open, (ie no source for Honeycomb yet), you guys should just shut your mouths about Android and stop making excuses for not using Android. -DK On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Chris Penn <cantorm...@gmail.com> wrote: > I have posted about this on various social networks. I think it is > wrong that Micro$oft is making money off of android with their FUD and > patent scare tactics, however, at the end of the day, android runs on > Linux. M$ is threatening these companies and I am not going to stop > using Linux just because the companies are folding to the M$ pressure. > The problem is with the system these companies are working within. > Patents are the real problem and as long as the courts recognize > software patents these types of threats will be viable, IMO. > > ten Android firms pay M$ royalties > > http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/370696/microsoft-ten-android-firms-pay-us-royalties > > Half of all Android device makers pay patent royalties to Microsoft. > > http://www.neowin.net/news/half-of-all-android-devices-have-entered-into-patent-agreements-with-microsoft > > Google > > http://news.softpedia.com/news/Google-Is-Sitting-Idly-by-as-Microsoft-Makes-Even-More-Money-from-Android-229616.shtml > > The interesting thing about this is that M$ is not attacking Google > directly which puts the android creators in an awkward position. I > think Google is restraining themselves IMO because once they jump in > the game M$ may launch a case against Google for knowingly conspiring > to infringe on M$ patents, resulting in triple the fines and falling > stock prices in a bad economy. When/If M$ attacks Google directly the > FOSS community will probably get more involved. For now I think the > FOSS community is just reporting the royalties; what else can they do? > > Chris... > > This is wrong and these companies should definitely be doing something > to stop it. > > Chris... > On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 10:14 PM, David Kaiser <dkai...@cdk.com> wrote: > > Over the past 2 years, I've had various discussions about my opinions on > > why I don't use Android, primarily being issues of usability and the > > design of the Android OS being non "open" as compared to a Desktop > > distribution. > > > > Well, forget those two cases, I now think my main argument is > > officially changed. > > > > The primary reason to not use Android now is... Microsoft. > > > > Read this entire article: > http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/79179 > > > > Microsoft makes more money from patent licensing into Android > > manufacturers than it does on Windows Mobile. > > > > > > Barnes & Noble distributes the Nook Color and Nook Tablet, > > Android-based tablet/e-book devices. Well, Barnes & Noble has refused > > to roll over and be extorted by Microsoft over patents. Read the > > groklaw.net articles and see the details. > > http://groklaw.net/article.php?story=2011111122291296 > > http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20111111121548972 > > > > (From groklaw article...): "Barnes & Noble asserts that Microsoft is > > attempting "to use patents to drive open source software out of the > > market," saying it, in essence, is acting like a patent troll, > > threatening companies using Android with a destructive and > > anticompetitive choice: pay Microsoft exorbitant rates for patents, some > > trivial and others ridiculously invalid or clearly not infringed, or > > spend a fortune on litigation." > > > > So, while I'm not a Nook owner (and not much into portable digital book > > reading...) I will be a Barnes & Noble fan and customer for life if they > > stand by these claims and either cause the USPTO to reform the patent > > system, or cause the DOJ to investigate Microsoft seriously. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > LinuxUsers mailing list > > LinuxUsers@socallinux.org > > http://socallinux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linuxusers > > > > > > -- > "As we open our newspapers or watch our television screens, we seem to > be continually assaulted by the fruits of Mankind's stupidity." > -Roger Penrose > _______________________________________________ > LinuxUsers mailing list > LinuxUsers@socallinux.org > http://socallinux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linuxusers >
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