Basic physics tells us that a manipulator, composed of fine motor components sheathed in a stronger alloy of some sort, will not be as strong as a solid piece of that alloy.  Or multiple levels of layered alloys.  The point is that manipulators require not-so-strong components in order to operate properly (i.e. gears, wires, or whatever you're using to allow the "fingers" to have precision movements), and those components are probably going to reduce the overall materials strength of whatever is on the end of your arm.

 

As for your "Gee Whiz Aren't I So Smart to Evolve This Design Into Beam Blade!!1!" argument - I think I'll save the expense on a piece of equipment that will be rarely used (barring, once again, the development of a MacGuffin like Minovsky Particles), and save it for something useful like more mobile suits - maybe with mecha-sized sniper rifles.  Even your "Gee, I can switch weapons!" argument fails to carry water.  Unlike Gundams, real-world mobile suits don't need to all be right-handed..  You've got two arms.  Might as well make use of both of them.  Cannon goes in one arm, piledriver/retractable-spring-mounted-blade/cheap-melee-weapon-of-your-choice goes in the other.  Cannons that require two limbs to steady can't be stowed properly in the event that you've got a sudden melee on your hands.  And you can just as easily mount them over the shoulder on the odd chance that you for some reason need to keep a free "end of limb" o! n your hypothetical unit.

 

Is it pretty?

 

Probably not.

 

But it gets the job done, and it costs less than a bunch of fancy stuff that probably won't be used very often.

 

 

I mean, seriously, what was the point of putting arms and hands on a Guntank?  I like the design.  But did the arms and hands do ANYTHING that justified the expense of putting them there?

 

 

 

 

junior




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Subject : Re: MS Designs - RE: [gundam] WTF: Gundam 00?
Date : Tue, 05 Jun 2007 14:20:19 -0700
From : Alfred Urrutia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> And you can argue that things might change in the future. But basic
> physics tells us that manipulators aren't nearly as useful in combat
> as an arm that ends in a piece of solid "material". Melee combat may
> exist in the future. But an arm built like a pile-driver will
> probably be structurally sound and therefore more useful than one that
> ends in a manipulator.
>
>
>

Basic physics tells us that? Really? Where? And what "material" are
we talking about here? Steel? Titanium? Does basic physics allow for
a material or alloy *that isn't around currently* that might be the
difference in structural soundness to the materials you are assuming
now? So, this pile-driver, what other use is it besides as a
pile-driver? Why not a blade instead? "But a blade wouldn't be able to
cut through the armor!" Ah, what assumptions have you made about what
this blade would be made out of? Metal? A composite of some kind?
What about using a beam of energy along its edge? Hm, now that changes
things (if it's possible to make one). But a pile-driver would be good,
too. Yes. So would a cannon, maybe both limbs should be cannons. Or
gatling guns. Or missile launchers. Or one of each. Ok, one of each.
Which two? Fuck, it would be so much easier if we could swap through
*all* those weapons (and any others that might come up later)! Wait,
call me crazy, but,... what if we put a *hand* at the...





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