On Mon, 2006-06-19 at 17:45 -0300, Fernando Lozano wrote:
> Hi Bryan,
> It looks to me you view technology per se, so you want to join 
> everything related to auth/dir/naming. I view not technology, but common 
> tasks network admins need to do. That's why I prefer to keep all 
> samba-related stuff like winbind separate from a more general 
> auth/dir/naming exam. And that's why I think strong ldap skills are not 
> required for LPIC-3-Samba.

Sigh, I have _never_ said "strong" LDAP skills were needed.  I only said
_basic_ object synchronization across an enterprise is needed, and one
that doesn't merely rely on native Windows servers.

As far as "technology" -- I though that's what UNIX/Linux is.  It is a
set of services to implement a set of services in an enterprise.  Not
only is Samba on its own _not_ such, but it relies on _other_ services
as well.

Unless you just make it "dumb" and rely on either local UNIX
authentication or connect to a native Windows server via Winbindd.

> It also looks to me you want LPIC-3 to be a "guru" certification. I 
> think there's a need for at least one intermediate level between LPIC-2 
> and "guru" level. As Taki wrote, the "guru" would have all LPIC-3 tracks 
> we taught about and some we do not plan to have right now.
> Sincerely, I'm well aware of all cross-cut concerns you need to be a 
> real "guru" sysadmin but I can't see how could anyone certify such 
> "gurus". It's my understanding LPI won't certify the master consultants 
> but will certify professional profiles most linux users need to recruit.

I have tried my best to _simplify_ and _streamline_ the program with my
suggestions.  You'all are looking at it as "oh, we can't do all that"
but you're looking at it from the standpoint of doing "all that" on
_each_ exam.

I'm just saying take the common stuff -- the network-wide
synchronization of objects, authententication and resource information
-- and put it in a single exam.  It's *NOT* a full-up LDAP exam, just an
_elementary_ one.

Until you do that, MCSEs will continue to think Linux is a joke -- short
of the new RHCA program that _does_ break it down by "technologies" into
5 separate exams -- including basic network authentication and object
synchronization concepts.  That's because that's how enterprises really
work.  Everything begins with the base network-wide object reference.

This setup is going to test if people know how to setup Samba and *NOT*
do a thing with network-wide authentication/objects -- unless they have
ADS -- from what I've seen discussed.

-- Bryan

P.S.  A few questions to reflect on this "peer" review ...

How many here have worked outside of the ISP world?

On an enterprise network where you have to synchronize basic objects on
UNIX/Linux systems?

And the Linux systems are doing more than just serving files to Windows
systems?

Such as what my peers at HP, IBM, Red Hat and others are doing at their
clients, and I'm doing at mine as well, and have been for a decade.

And even then, legacy NIS/NFS died over 5 years ago, and we really have
to "get current" or I will still professionally recommend MCSEs or RHCAs
because they at least know a solution with a basic, distributed
authentication/object system that can service UNIX/Linux clients as well
as Windows ones.


-- 
Bryan J. Smith           Professional, technical annoyance
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]     http://thebs413.blogspot.com
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The existence of Linux has far more to do with the breakup
of AT&T's monopoly than anything Microsoft has ever done.


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