I think openoffice is a bad choice, you can easily put this into context: EEEPC 2G comes with a 2Gb internal drive, OpenOffice installed is 500Mb, that 25% of the entire storage taken up by an office suite.
Not exactly light is it.... On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 9:25 AM, Ed Hewitt <[email protected]>wrote: > I agree with mario, I have always believed that Lubuntu needs to come with > some important applications for the end user to be able to use "out of the > box". I believe the goal is to have a distro which can run on very low > requirements which has a great usability with the help of carefully selected > applications for their usefulness and being light. > > 2009/7/1 Mario Behling <[email protected]> > > Hello everyone, >> >> it is fantastic to see people are joining and have lots of ideas. We >> had IRC meet ups in order to have a less time-consuming way to talk to >> each other. PCMan and others of the LXDE team took part in those >> meetings. Besides that during recent months, we have met up among some >> people in person for example in Singapore, Taiwan and Germany. >> >> About applications - decisions are not final, but we had (and have) a >> fair bit of discussion about it already. >> >> I believe much depends on the goal we aim for. As I have been around >> emerging countries during last years, I developed an idea about what >> would be a nice thing to have in those countries. I believe lubuntu >> can be a good thing for many people. We need to keep it lightweight, >> but at the same time include essential features (that work for the >> user group we aim for). >> >> Internet bandwidth in countries like Afghanistan or in African >> countries is often very low. So, we need to consider this. Some people >> say "you can just download and install applications on top of a >> minimum install", in regions with limited bandwidth this is not an >> option. >> >> In regards to mobile devices and architectures like ARM and Mips, we >> also have to think that new netbooks and other devices are coming out. >> They often have low resolutions. I recently saw a netbook with 800x420 >> screen resolution in China. >> >> So, I think talking about the goal of the distribution is the first >> thing to consider and the second step is to talk about single >> applications. If an applications fulfills goals well, but at a later >> point another application fulfills our goals better, we can switch. >> >> The question now: What is the goal of lubuntu for you? Do you suggest >> something else? >> >> All the best, >> >> Mario >> >> >> On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 8:52 AM, Luther Goh Lu Feng<[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > Just in case, there was any miscommunication, the list just contain >> possible >> > candidates for the application category. For instance, in the web >> browser >> > category, we have midori, epiphany, firefox, kazhakase and some others. >> But >> > we will only choose one, and based on the meetings, we have chosen >> Firefox >> > for functionality and usability reasons. Unfortunately, the meeting >> members >> > haven't gotten around to updating the decision on the choice of >> > applications. It's pretty much buried in the logs now AFAIK. >> > >> > Maybe Mario can give some input as to how we should progress with >> regards to >> > the decision on applications? >> > >> > From: Ed Hewitt <[email protected]> >> > To: [email protected] >> > Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2009 1:54:04 AM >> > Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu could end up like Xubuntu (Heavy >> & >> > Slow) >> > >> > I too have the same opinion and in the same situation as Glen. I have >> missed >> > out on the meetings, since only being involved in Lubuntu since >> yesterday. I >> > have looked at the applications list and there is too many, Lubuntu >> could >> > end up too heavy. This is one of the reasons I sent my first email off >> in >> > the mailing lists. >> > >> > 2009/7/1 Glen Bizeau <[email protected]> >> >> >> >> Wow, >> >> >> >> I just went through the list if apps, Thats a lot of stuff... >> >> >> >> Personally, I think it should be lighter than this, but I guess thats >> >> what I get for missing the IRC meeting :) >> >> >> >> Will we have a chance to vote on these things? or do the IRC meetings >> >> denote final say? >> >> >> >> Glen >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 1:03 AM, Luther Goh Lu Feng<[email protected]> >> >> wrote: >> >> > Hi everyone, >> >> > >> >> > Good to see the sudden spike in mailing list activity. I definitely >> need >> >> > time to follow the threads. >> >> > >> >> > For those unaware, we have had 3 IRC meetings to discuss the goals >> and >> >> > applications of Lubuntu. The logs are at >> >> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/IRC%20Meetings. The objective of the >> >> > meeting >> >> > was to narrow down the list of applications, and also to decide the >> >> > goals of >> >> > Lubuntu I urge patience to go through the logs to understand what has >> >> > transpired so far. >> >> > >> >> > I believe the goals of Lubuntu that was decided during that meeting >> is >> >> > that >> >> > Lubuntu will be a lightweight distro with appropriate functionality >> and >> >> > usability. (Yes, I know that functionality and usability have >> subjective >> >> > meaning). >> >> > >> >> > The list of applications at >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Applications >> >> > are >> >> > just a list of applications we will choose for inclusion. Generally, >> >> > only >> >> > one will be included from each application category. >> >> > >> >> > At the meeting, members have decided to include Firefox, >> OpenOffice.org, >> >> > VLC >> >> > I am not sure if there will be changes following the discussion on >> the >> >> > mailing list. Perhaps this can be discussed in the next IRC meeting? >> >> > >> >> > From: Ed Hewitt <[email protected]> >> >> > To: [email protected] >> >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 12:13:47 PM >> >> > Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu could end up like Xubuntu >> (Heavy >> >> > & >> >> > Slow) >> >> > >> >> > I would say LXDE is lighter than Xfce, the LXDE developers seem to >> think >> >> > so. >> >> > I think 64mb Minimum is enough. >> >> > >> >> > 2009/6/30 Andrew Woodhead <[email protected]> >> >> >> >> >> >> http://wiki.xfce.org/minimum_requirements >> >> >> >> >> >> May help to guide >> >> >> >> >> >> I'd say 300Mhz CPU + 192Mb RAM >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 3:50 PM, jon york <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Good point ed, >> >> >>> >> >> >>> we are forgetting our requirements, and getting head of ourselves. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> so now that we are mostly agreed on being small and lightweight, >> what >> >> >>> will be the minimum and recommended specs? >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Jon York >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> ________________________________ >> >> >>> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:07:11 +0100 >> >> >>> From: [email protected] >> >> >>> To: [email protected] >> >> >>> Subject: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu could end up like Xubuntu (Heavy >> & >> >> >>> Slow) >> >> >>> >> >> >>> I believe its a bad idea having different versions of Lubuntu, >> having >> >> >>> different meta packages of Lubuntu is not what lubutnu needs. Its >> all >> >> >>> about >> >> >>> lightweight distro. The Ubuntu guidelines requires the distro to >> have >> >> >>> one >> >> >>> build, lubuntu-desktop. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> All we need to do is make sure that this single meta package is >> >> >>> bundled >> >> >>> with a few lightweight apps for the end user to require out of the >> box >> >> >>> which >> >> >>> works well with the LXDE environment. >> >> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mailing list: >> https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop<https://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop> >> Post to : [email protected] >> Unsubscribe : >> https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop<https://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop> >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> > > > > -- > www.edhewitt.co.uk > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: > https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop<https://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop> > Post to : [email protected] > Unsubscribe : > https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop<https://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop> > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > >
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