On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 3:55 PM, Tim Schofield <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 09/08/2010, Kyle Spencer <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Tim,
> >
> >
> >  > As I have said before, theft is the taking of someone elses property
> >  > without their permission, and you are not denying this is what you do.
> >
> >
> > I repeat:
> >
> >
> >  An act of "theft" requires that someone be denied ownership, possession,
> use, or access to something
> >  as a result of the taking.
> >
>
> I repeat:
>
> Theft=The taking of something that is not yours without the perm
> ission of the rightful owner.
>
>
Does this mean that the Google guys are thieves because they make copies of
copyrighted sites and store them in their cache which they
publish/distribute?


> we have moved on from this Bardu has accepted that it is theft, just
> that is is acceptable theft.
>
> >
> > Clearly the above has not happened, and therefore nobody is "stealing"
> anything even by American legal standards (the home of bad IP law).
> >
> >  Making a copy of something != theft -- even in the US.
> >
> >  FYI: Global IP laws, as they relate to this discussion, are generally
> the result of intense lobbying/corruption of the US legal system by large
> media distribution companies (RIAA/MPAA) who's businesses became irrelevant
> as a result of the Internet.
>
> :-D
>
> Copyright existed a very long time before the USA existed.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_copyright_law
>
> They are to blame for many things, but not copyright.
>
> >
> >  These companies do not represent the artists, they represent factories,
> retail business relationships, and license fees which do not get passed on
> to the creative talent behind the works which they distribute.
> >
> >  Essentially, these companies had so much money and clout that they were
> able to alter the US and, to some extent, global legal system in order to
> make their businesses artificially relevant.
> >
> >  On a side note, I wonder what state the world would be in today if
> horse-drawn carriage manufacturers had pulled off the same stunt in order to
> make automobiles illegal.
>
> I think you have maybe misunderstood this thread.
>
> >
> >  Regards,
> >
> > Kyle Spencer
> >
>
> Tim
>
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