wow... its getting hot in here.... Tim I think we miss what Badru
started by
posting that link. He clearly and has clearly continued to say, " lets
grow
this. lets tackle all those grey areas as we grow this".
I pasted a section of our newest IPR and Copyright laws, which you all
seem
to have ignored. There is no copyright that protects a broadcast. In our
current law, taking from what Patrick Okui said, you may go ahead and
rebrand a Sanyu FM broadcast and as per our law (i stand to be
corrected)
you are not infringing on any ones rights.
Granted that all artists have a right to their material and to have it
protected under the law, and this is catered for in the law. I had
earlier
said that if Badru was re-broadcasting these earlier broadcasts with the
intention of making money, then the artists whose songs are aired in
Badru's
re-broadcast have a right to sue Badru. If you are simply broadcasting
with
no intention of earning anything from it, look at the law, it does not
cater
for that.
Tim, you seem bent on this copyright issue and rightfully so, but apply
it
according to the laws of Uganda, not a law that we do not have in the
land.
The reason there was an amendment to the old 1960's IPR and Copyright
law
was to cater for the emerging markets. This is what Badru keeps on
mentioning that we need to grow as YRadio continues to develop. I don't
understand and see why you are opposing that. We need to grow, YRadio,
in
this heated debate has brought out areas that need to be ironed out as
far
as our laws are concerned. Stifling ideas because of looking at one
countries laws over another will not help us grow. Allow us to
experience
this and make the necessary laws to protect our rights. You have
learnt, let
us learn. Allow us the privilege of understanding what something is
other
than enforcing something someone else has understood from its inception.
Badru, charge on.
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Wire James <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>
> Tim
>
>
> Get off your high horse. While many of us may be concerned about the
rights of copyright holders, the situation not only in Uganda but many
other
African Countries outside South Africa is similar. Many times members on
this list who are in business can vouch for this, people have come up
with
proposals, ideas, innovations e.t.c and they are 'stolen' from them
unashamedly and in most instances by corporates that originate from the
so
called purist countries you are trying to talk about. I recall a very
famous
case of one Lugger whose company tussled it out with a giant over
infringement of copyright on some software. This big company thought it
would frustrate the guy through the court process but luckily enough,
he was
able to push on till the big elephant sought an out of court settlement.
However, how many people have been lucky enough to achieve such justice
here
in Uganda? Few, very few. That is why you find the laissez faire
attitude
among the list members because we have more pressing problems and needs
than
pretending that copyright will change our lives. Many times we submit
proposals for jobs and they are 'copy n pasted' by competitors who have
insiders in the organisations we are approaching. It is a dog eat dog
world
for now and I will unashamedly tell you that as for now, copyright
issues
are at the bottom of our list of problems to think about. I would
rather see
Badru's project go on if its aim has a more positive impact on this
nation
eventually than guarding worthless songs that have nothing to copyright
about. Many of these musicians would not even earn a dime if copyright
was
to be observed to the letter in this country. I remember 4 years ago a
musician I helped to get paid US$ 1500 for a 3 hour show all because I
came
across his music on a website that he even didnt know about. Like
someone
said, it is a skewed market. Just understand it the way it is.
>
> Wire
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, 2010-08-09 at 14:26 +0300, Tim Schofield wrote:
> On 09/08/2010, Joseph Abdi <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Tim,
> >
> > It's because 90% of the list members have not faced copy-right
issues ..
> > Also, since almost 90% of our website materials in Uganda don't use
> > original materials one does not
> > yet see the need or importance of copy-right ...
> >
> > And again, remember this is a LUG list (Open-Source) where FREE,
COPY,
> > RE-USE
> > is Legal ...with the OS mentality and mind-set, you can hardly have
support
> > or understanding of it here ..
>
> No no no no. Open source is only about free re-use if you keep within
> the narrow confines of the license that the software is issued under,
> for example the GPL. It in no way condones the abuse of copyright.
> Copyright is at the very heart of the GPL. Anyone on this list who is
> using a kernel more recent than 2.6.13 is using some of my copyrighted
> code which I allow them to do providing they stick to the letter of
> the license that the code is released under (GPL v2.0).
>
> Every open source developer, and those who benefit from the use of
> open source should be active in the protection of the rights of
> copyright holders. I have spoken at LUG meetings around the world, and
> never before found a group who consider that copyright holders rights
> should be abused.
>
> You clearly believe the rest of the world will throw off its
> fluffiness and join Uganda in this. Trust me you will be disappointed.
>
>
> >
>
>
>
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