wow... its getting hot in here.... Tim I think we miss what Badru started by posting that link. He clearly and has clearly continued to say, " lets grow this. lets tackle all those grey areas as we grow this".
I pasted a section of our newest IPR and Copyright laws, which you all seem to have ignored. There is no copyright that protects a broadcast. In our current law, taking from what Patrick Okui said, you may go ahead and rebrand a Sanyu FM broadcast and as per our law (i stand to be corrected) you are not infringing on any ones rights. Granted that all artists have a right to their material and to have it protected under the law, and this is catered for in the law. I had earlier said that if Badru was re-broadcasting these earlier broadcasts with the intention of making money, then the artists whose songs are aired in Badru's re-broadcast have a right to sue Badru. If you are simply broadcasting with no intention of earning anything from it, look at the law, it does not cater for that. Tim, you seem bent on this copyright issue and rightfully so, but apply it according to the laws of Uganda, not a law that we do not have in the land. The reason there was an amendment to the old 1960's IPR and Copyright law was to cater for the emerging markets. This is what Badru keeps on mentioning that we need to grow as YRadio continues to develop. I don't understand and see why you are opposing that. We need to grow, YRadio, in this heated debate has brought out areas that need to be ironed out as far as our laws are concerned. Stifling ideas because of looking at one countries laws over another will not help us grow. Allow us to experience this and make the necessary laws to protect our rights. You have learnt, let us learn. Allow us the privilege of understanding what something is other than enforcing something someone else has understood from its inception. Badru, charge on. On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Wire James <[email protected]>wrote: > Tim > > > Get off your high horse. While many of us may be concerned about the rights > of copyright holders, the situation not only in Uganda but many other > African Countries outside South Africa is similar. Many times members on > this list who are in business can vouch for this, people have come up with > proposals, ideas, innovations e.t.c and they are 'stolen' from them > unashamedly and in most instances by corporates that originate from the so > called purist countries you are trying to talk about. I recall a very famous > case of one Lugger whose company tussled it out with a giant over > infringement of copyright on some software. This big company thought it > would frustrate the guy through the court process but luckily enough, he was > able to push on till the big elephant sought an out of court settlement. > However, how many people have been lucky enough to achieve such justice here > in Uganda? Few, very few. That is why you find the laissez faire attitude > among the list members because we have more pressing problems and needs than > pretending that copyright will change our lives. Many times we submit > proposals for jobs and they are 'copy n pasted' by competitors who have > insiders in the organisations we are approaching. It is a dog eat dog world > for now and I will unashamedly tell you that as for now, copyright issues > are at the bottom of our list of problems to think about. I would rather see > Badru's project go on if its aim has a more positive impact on this nation > eventually than guarding worthless songs that have nothing to copyright > about. Many of these musicians would not even earn a dime if copyright was > to be observed to the letter in this country. I remember 4 years ago a > musician I helped to get paid US$ 1500 for a 3 hour show all because I came > across his music on a website that he even didnt know about. Like someone > said, it is a skewed market. Just understand it the way it is. > > Wire > > > > On Mon, 2010-08-09 at 14:26 +0300, Tim Schofield wrote: > > On 09/08/2010, Joseph Abdi <[email protected]> wrote:> Tim,>> It's because 90% > of the list members have not faced copy-right issues ..> Also, since almost > 90% of our website materials in Uganda don't use> original materials one does > not> yet see the need or importance of copy-right ...>> And again, remember > this is a LUG list (Open-Source) where FREE, COPY,> RE-USE> is Legal ...with > the OS mentality and mind-set, you can hardly have support> or understanding > of it here .. > No no no no. Open source is only about free re-use if you keep withinthe > narrow confines of the license that the software is issued under,for example > the GPL. It in no way condones the abuse of copyright.Copyright is at the > very heart of the GPL. Anyone on this list who isusing a kernel more recent > than 2.6.13 is using some of my copyrightedcode which I allow them to do > providing they stick to the letter ofthe license that the code is released > under (GPL v2.0). > Every open source developer, and those who benefit from the use ofopen source > should be active in the protection of the rights ofcopyright holders. I have > spoken at LUG meetings around the world, andnever before found a group who > consider that copyright holders rightsshould be abused. > You clearly believe the rest of the world will throw off itsfluffiness and > join Uganda in this. Trust me you will be disappointed. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > LUG mailing list > [email protected] > http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > > LUG is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > All Archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including > attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. > --------------------------------------- > > > -- Mike Of course, you might discount this possibility, but remember that one in a million chances happen 99% of the time. ------------------------------------------------------------
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