Now that VSAT team has realised that all our local ISPs are totally relying on
fiber (both Primary and Backup). We should expect more interuptions on the
fiber (Intended fiber cuts). However much costly VSAT is, any serious teir 2
ISP should plan to have a backup link on VSAT.
Quoting you here "PS: Please do recall that
TEAMS/SEACOM/EASSY terminate at Mombasa. It is up to
MTN/Orange/UTL/Infocom/BCS to get that connectivity to Uganda." What if we get
any political instability with our neighbors, What would happen?
PS: Also recall how MPOMA VSAT hub came into existance from Kenya.
Regards.
None of us is as smart as all of us
________________________________
From: Mike Barnard <[email protected]>
To: mwebaze keikara nelson <[email protected]>; Uganda Linux User Group
<[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: [LUG] Uganda Internet
On 15 March 2012 17:08, mwebaze keikara nelson <[email protected]> wrote:
Steven,
>
>Am not saying Fiber is not good. Am trying to clarify that prices would have
>been much more lower considering the bw, data rates, throughput, less
>interferences a fiber has compared to VSAT access and actually what makes VSAT
>expensive is the first installation, purchase of Antennas, modems and other
>accessories.
>
First and foremost the cost of building a satellite is in the tune of millions
of USD. That is a cost that needs to be recovered. Secondly, there is a launch
into space cost of approximately 50M-450M USD, a cost that needs to be
recovered. Thirdly, once in space it needs to be maintained. This too is a cost
that needs to be recovered. It costs approximately 3500 USD per month for an
ISP to purchase 1Mhz of transponder space on a satellite (costs may have
changed). 0.8Mhz of transponder space is approximately equal to 1Mbps
(depending on technology used).
It is safe to assume that 1Mbps will cost you approximately 3500 USD per month.
Purchasing 1Mbps from TEAMS costs hundreds of dollars if not less.
In the era of satellites, it cost a customer approximately 2000 USD for a
512Kbps up and 256 Kbps down bandwidth purchase. It now costs a customer
approximately 700 USD to get a 1Mbps symmetric bandwidth purchase.
Are you sure "Am trying to clarify that prices would have been much more lower
considering the bw, data rates, throughput, less interferences a fiber
has compared to VSAT access" is valid in bashing the current pricing?
PS: Please do recall that TEAMS/SEACOM/EASSY terminate at Mombasa. It is up to
MTN/Orange/UTL/Infocom/BCS to get that connectivity to Uganda. There is a cost
there as well.
>
>
>
>
>None of us is as smart as all of us
>
>
>
>
>________________________________
> From: Stephen S. Musoke <[email protected]>
>To: 'mwebaze keikara nelson' <[email protected]>; 'Uganda Linux User Group'
><[email protected]>; 'Reinier Battenberg' <[email protected]>
>Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 4:49 PM
>
>Subject: RE: [LUG] Uganda Internet
>
>
>Mwebaze,
>
>Bundled data was too expensive to be offered as a viable internet access
>option. You may say times have changed, but the reality is the benefits of
>fiber far outweigh the disruptions due to the cuts (not that they are
>acceptable).
>
>My current ISP has connections to all three backbone, so while there is
>noticeable degradation, its not too bad. VSATs just never worked
>
>Stephen
>
>From:mwebaze keikara nelson [mailto:[email protected]]
>Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 4:27 PM
>To: Stephen S. Musoke; 'Uganda Linux User Group'; 'Reinier Battenberg'
>
>Subject: Re: [LUG] Uganda Internet
>
>Stepehn.....
>
>And the last customer running on bunddled data?
>
>Regards.
>
>
>None of us is as smart as all of us
>
>
>
>________________________________
>
>From:Stephen S. Musoke <[email protected]>
>To: 'mwebaze keikara nelson' <[email protected]>; 'Uganda Linux User Group'
><[email protected]>; 'Reinier Battenberg' <[email protected]>
>Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 4:16 PM
>Subject: RE: [LUG] Uganda Internet
>
>Mwebaze,
>
>Maybe you have not been using internet for long, but I will tell the costs
>have gone way down, you can get a 1MB link for ~$400 as compared to $5,000 on
>VSAT.
>
>Stephen
>
>From:mwebaze keikara nelson [mailto:[email protected]]
>Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 3:54 PM
>To: Reinier Battenberg; Uganda Linux User Group
>Subject: Re: [LUG] Uganda Internet
>
>Hello Reinier,
>
>I have not realised any big differences in data prices even with decreasing
>fiber installation costs (60%) and the fact that its expanding beyond its
>original realm and major application in the carrier backbone and is moving
>into the local loop, and through technologies such as FTTXs and PONs
>(broadband).
>
>None of us is as smart as all of us
>
>e
>
>________________________________
>
>From:Reinier Battenberg <[email protected]>
>To: mwebaze keikara nelson <[email protected]>; Uganda Linux User Group
><[email protected]>
>Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 2:55 PM
>Subject: Re: [LUG] Uganda Internet
>
>Hi Nelson,
>
>Am quite sure that you would not want to be paying the price your telco would
>charge you if they had not decommissioned their VSATs.
>
>I hope they did jail the captain that anchored in a demarcated zone on the
>coast of Mombassa. Our misery is his sole responsibility.
>
>rgds,
>reinier
>
>On Thursday 15 March 2012 02:27:00 mwebaze keikara nelson wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> We had more relaible Internet connections off VSATs before fiber. Well,
>> Fiber is good and also considering VSAT's high mantainance costs, most
>> companies had to run fiber as their primary links but my worry is; how can
>> a whole tier 2 ISP switch off redundancy links on VSAT. Am told even others
>> decommissioned them. How do they expect to achieve service
Availability?
>> I believe this has been a lesson to most Engineers and companies to always
>> plan for fail-overs and tolorence.
>>
>>
>> Regards.
>> Nelson.
>>
>>
>>
>> None of us is as smart as all of us
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Bernard Wanyama <[email protected]>
>> To: Uganda Linux User Group <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 11:00 AM
>> Subject: Re: [LUG] Uganda Internet
>>
>> This is something I found regarding TEAMS repair status:
>>
>>
>> · The cable ship NIWA arrived at Salalah spares depot on
11-03-2012.
>> · Preparations are now ongoing to load spare cable and
>> jointing kits onto the ship
>> · Cable mobilization for the Mombasa mission is expected on
>> 12-03-2012 · So far we are still on schedule (cable ship expected
>> to
>> arrive at Mombasa on 18-03-2012, for 4 day repair works ending
>> 23-03-2012, all going well)
>>
>> · We will continue to update regularly, at least every 48 hours.
>> · Once again we thank you for your patience and understanding
>> as we try our level best to repair the cable and restore full services
>> asap.
>>
>>
>> With TEAMS and EASSY down, I think there is little QoS and a lot of
>> oversubscription on SEACOM.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Bernard
>>
>> On 15 March 2012
10:38, Simon Vass <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Anyone got a comprehensive picture of what is up with our Internet. As
>> > far as I can tell.
>> >
>> > EASSY - Down - Since three weeks ago
>> > TEAMS - Down - Since yesterday
>> > SEACOM - Barely holding it together - Last couple of weeks.
>> >
>> > As of this morning I know both Orange and MTN are using Seacom? May be
>> > the others are not down but just traffic being routed via Seacom.
>> >
>> > ?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Simon Vass
>> > Managing Director
>> > E-Tech Uganda Ltd
>> >
>> > http://www.etech.ug
>> > Tel: +256 (0) 312260620 or (0) 312260621
>> > email: [email protected]
>> > skype: e-techservicedesk
>> >
>> >
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>rgds,
>
>Reinier Battenberg
>Director
>Mountbatten Ltd.
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