I don't know much about this, but how easy would it be to get a deal where you pay a token monthly fee, which then increases with Internet usage? Like $20,000, then on the month your main link goes down, you pay the other $150k.
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 5:55 PM, mwebaze keikara nelson <[email protected]> wrote: > Brian, > > I wouldnt mind spending since this would be from my retained, satsfied and > happy customers who will uninterrupted services with 99% uptimes beating > SLAs. > > None of us is as smart as all of us > > > ________________________________ > From: brian muhumuza <[email protected]> > > To: Uganda Linux User Group <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 5:27 PM > > Subject: Re: [LUG] Uganda Internet > > In the end, it all comes down to economics. If you were the CEO if this so > called "serious tier 2 ISP", how would you justify forking ~ $170,000 every > month for 50 Mbps of mostly idle VSAT capacity? > > On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 3:42 PM, mwebaze keikara nelson <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Now that VSAT team has realised that all our local ISPs are totally relying > on fiber (both Primary and Backup). We should expect more interuptions on > the fiber (Intended fiber cuts). However much costly VSAT is, any serious > teir 2 ISP should plan to have a backup link on VSAT. > > Quoting you here "PS: Please do recall that TEAMS/SEACOM/EASSY terminate at > Mombasa. It is up to MTN/Orange/UTL/Infocom/BCS to get that connectivity to > Uganda." What if we get any political instability with our neighbors, What > would happen? > > PS: Also recall how MPOMA VSAT hub came into existance from Kenya. > > Regards. > > None of us is as smart as all of us > > > ________________________________ > From: Mike Barnard <[email protected]> > > To: mwebaze keikara nelson <[email protected]>; Uganda Linux User Group > <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 2:18 PM > > Subject: Re: [LUG] Uganda Internet > > > > On 15 March 2012 17:08, mwebaze keikara nelson <[email protected]> wrote: > > Steven, > > Am not saying Fiber is not good. Am trying to clarify that prices would have > been much more lower considering the bw, data rates, throughput, less > interferences a fiber has compared to VSAT access and actually what makes > VSAT expensive is the first installation, purchase of Antennas, modems and > other accessories. > > > First and foremost the cost of building a satellite is in the tune of > millions of USD. That is a cost that needs to be recovered. Secondly, there > is a launch into space cost of approximately 50M-450M USD, a cost that needs > to be recovered. Thirdly, once in space it needs to be maintained. This too > is a cost that needs to be recovered. It costs approximately 3500 USD per > month for an ISP to purchase 1Mhz of transponder space on a satellite (costs > may have changed). 0.8Mhz of transponder space is approximately equal to > 1Mbps (depending on technology used). > > It is safe to assume that 1Mbps will cost you approximately 3500 USD per > month. Purchasing 1Mbps from TEAMS costs hundreds of dollars if not less. > > In the era of satellites, it cost a customer approximately 2000 USD for a > 512Kbps up and 256 Kbps down bandwidth purchase. It now costs a customer > approximately 700 USD to get a 1Mbps symmetric bandwidth purchase. > > Are you sure "Am trying to clarify that prices would have been much more > lower considering the bw, data rates, throughput, less interferences a fiber > has compared to VSAT access" is valid in bashing the current pricing? > > PS: Please do recall that TEAMS/SEACOM/EASSY terminate at Mombasa. It is up > to MTN/Orange/UTL/Infocom/BCS to get that connectivity to Uganda. There is a > cost there as well. > > > > > None of us is as smart as all of us > > > ________________________________ > From: Stephen S. Musoke <[email protected]> > To: 'mwebaze keikara nelson' <[email protected]>; 'Uganda Linux User Group' > <[email protected]>; 'Reinier Battenberg' <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 4:49 PM > > Subject: RE: [LUG] Uganda Internet > > Mwebaze, > > Bundled data was too expensive to be offered as a viable internet access > option. You may say times have changed, but the reality is the benefits of > fiber far outweigh the disruptions due to the cuts (not that they are > acceptable). > > My current ISP has connections to all three backbone, so while there is > noticeable degradation, its not too bad. VSATs just never worked > > Stephen > > From: mwebaze keikara nelson [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 4:27 PM > To: Stephen S. Musoke; 'Uganda Linux User Group'; 'Reinier Battenberg' > > Subject: Re: [LUG] Uganda Internet > > Stepehn..... > > And the last customer running on bunddled data? > > Regards. > > > None of us is as smart as all of us > > > ________________________________ > From: Stephen S. Musoke <[email protected]> > To: 'mwebaze keikara nelson' <[email protected]>; 'Uganda Linux User Group' > <[email protected]>; 'Reinier Battenberg' <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 4:16 PM > Subject: RE: [LUG] Uganda Internet > > Mwebaze, > > Maybe you have not been using internet for long, but I will tell the costs > have gone way down, you can get a 1MB link for ~$400 as compared to $5,000 > on VSAT. > > Stephen > > From: mwebaze keikara nelson [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 3:54 PM > To: Reinier Battenberg; Uganda Linux User Group > Subject: Re: [LUG] Uganda Internet > > Hello Reinier, > > I have not realised any big differences in data prices even with decreasing > fiber installation costs (60%) and the fact that its expanding beyond its > original realm and major application in the carrier backbone and is moving > into the local loop, and through technologies such as FTTXs and PONs > (broadband). > > None of us is as smart as all of us > > e > ________________________________ > From: Reinier Battenberg <[email protected]> > To: mwebaze keikara nelson <[email protected]>; Uganda Linux User Group > <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 2:55 PM > Subject: Re: [LUG] Uganda Internet > > Hi Nelson, > > Am quite sure that you would not want to be paying the price your telco > would > charge you if they had not decommissioned their VSATs. > > I hope they did jail the captain that anchored in a demarcated zone on the > coast of Mombassa. Our misery is his sole responsibility. > > rgds, > reinier > > On Thursday 15 March 2012 02:27:00 mwebaze keikara nelson wrote: >> Hello, >> >> We had more relaible Internet connections off VSATs before fiber. Well, >> Fiber is good and also considering VSAT's high mantainance costs, most >> companies had to run fiber as their primary links but my worry is; how can >> a whole tier 2 ISP switch off redundancy links on VSAT. Am told even >> others >> decommissioned them. How do they expect to achieve service Availability? >> I believe this has been a lesson to most Engineers and companies to always >> plan for fail-overs and tolorence. >> >> >> Regards. >> Nelson. >> >> >> >> None of us is as smart as all of us >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Bernard Wanyama <[email protected]> >> To: Uganda Linux User Group <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 11:00 AM >> Subject: Re: [LUG] Uganda Internet >> >> This is something I found regarding TEAMS repair status: >> >> >> · The cable ship NIWA arrived at Salalah spares depot on >> 11-03-2012. >> · Preparations are now ongoing to load spare cable and >> jointing kits onto the ship >> · Cable mobilization for the Mombasa mission is expected on >> 12-03-2012 · So far we are still on schedule (cable ship expected >> to >> arrive at Mombasa on 18-03-2012, for 4 day repair works ending >> 23-03-2012, all going well) >> >> · We will continue to update regularly, at least every 48 hours. >> · Once again we thank you for your patience and understanding >> as we try our level best to repair the cable and restore full services >> asap. >> >> >> With TEAMS and EASSY down, I think there is little QoS and a lot of >> oversubscription on SEACOM. >> >> Kind regards, >> Bernard >> >> On 15 March 2012 10:38, Simon Vass <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Anyone got a comprehensive picture of what is up with our Internet. As >> > far as I can tell. >> > >> > EASSY - Down - Since three weeks ago >> > TEAMS - Down - Since yesterday >> > SEACOM - Barely holding it together - Last couple of weeks. >> > >> > As of this morning I know both Orange and MTN are using Seacom? May be >> > the others are not down but just traffic being routed via Seacom. >> > >> > ? >> > >> > >> > >> > Simon Vass >> > Managing Director >> > E-Tech Uganda Ltd >> > >> > http://www.etech.ug >> > Tel: +256 (0) 312260620 or (0) 312260621 >> > email: [email protected] >> > skype: e-techservicedesk >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug >> > >> > Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: >> > [email protected] Mailing list archives: >> > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Mailing list settings: >> > http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug >> > To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug >> > >> > The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: >> > http://www.infocom.co.ug/ >> > >> > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including >> > attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them >> > in any way. > -- > rgds, > > Reinier Battenberg > Director > Mountbatten Ltd. > www.mountbatten.net > tel: +256 758 801749 > twitter: @batje > > > > > _______________________________________________ > The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug > > Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: [email protected] > Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug > > The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: > http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including > attachments if any). 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