> On 11 Oct 2016, at 01:37, Roman Turovsky <r.turov...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Not really. There are a lot of factors in LF manufacture that are absent is > this. > > Many people play single-strung archlutes with nails, some without. Stephen > Stubbs with, Konrad Junghaenel and Konstantin Bozhinov without. > > RT >
Sure, I am not criticising anyone. On the contrary, I said Luca’s performance was very successful. On the other hand one may ask questions like: why someone plays single strung archlute if there is little evidence for this type of instrument, why someone uses fingernails if the evidence speaks against using them, and why someone uses amplification (Noble prize for someone who’ll find any evidence for this :)) And if all of this is used simultaneously, then one may assume it is not coincidental. Why? Because it is much more guitar-like, and most of lute players started their musical education as guitarists. Another problem is the fear of not being heard by an audience especially when playing in a group . Again, I am not criticising, however it should be pointed out that there are 2 ways of looking at authenticity IMHO, and someone who has no experience in early music may feel a little bit confused. Best JL > On 10/10/2016 5:33 PM, Jarosław Lipski wrote: >> Name it as you like, for me it’s a Liuto forte. There is another version >> of RV93 played by Luca here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JB101T_sVog >> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JB101T_sVog> >> The whole instrument is single strung again, and the evidence for this type >> of archlute stringing is very scarce as Howard rightly noticed. Luca uses >> fingernails, so this is another factor that influences the overall sound >> (not only mics). >> JL >> >> >>> On 10 Oct 2016, at 22:28, Roman Turovsky <r.turov...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> on a good authority of RT. >>> Luca has at least 2 of these, one with a much longer extension. >>> RT >>> >>> >>> On 10/10/2016 4:16 PM, JarosÅ‚aw Lipski wrote: >>>> Really? Is there any evidence to support this theory? >>>> JL >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 10 Oct 2016, at 22:15, Roman Turovsky <r.turov...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> It is certainly NOT a liuto-forte, but a single-strung archlute by Luc >>>>> Breton. >>>>> RT >>>>> >>>>> On 10/10/2016 2:06 PM, JarosÅ‚aw Lipski wrote: >>>>>> The instrument in question is not an archlute or liuto attiorbato, but a >>>>>> liuto forte. Some lute players like Luca Pianca, Luciano Contini, Eric >>>>>> Bellocq and many others use it, however I would be far from saying that >>>>>> this is a historical instrument - see here >>>>>> http://liuto-forte.com/ueb_00_en.html >>>>>> <http://liuto-forte.com/ueb_00_en.html> It’s easier to play and >>>>>> was specially created with guitarists in mind. >>>>>> Also Lucas fingering in Vivaldi isn’t really Baroque. Having said >>>>>> that, his performance from musical point of view was successful, and I >>>>>> am glad to see people talking about music on this list :) >>>>>> Best >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 10 Oct 2016, at 18:23, howard posner <howardpos...@ca.rr.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Oct 10, 2016, at 8:33 AM, Diego Cantalupi <tio...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The main problem to me, is that the concerto is played in C, and not. >>>>>>>> in D. >>>>>>>> It's easier on a G archlute, but sounds to me very strange for the >>>>>>>> violins. >>>>>>> Luca plays an archlute/liuto attiorbato in A. I believe Giardino >>>>>>> Armonico plays at A 415. I’m guessing the pitch is lowered on >>>>>>> the Youtube video we’re talking about. This is commonly done to >>>>>>> avoid detection by copyright bots. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Here’s a recording of Giardino and Luca doing the same concerto, >>>>>>> sounding in D at A 415: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0kJwhbZcAM >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Of course, it’s possible that the sound is adjusted up on this >>>>>>> one. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To get on or off this list see list information at >>>>>>> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >>>>>> -- >>>> >> >> -- >
