The question is different:
why one should play a baroque lute concerto on a lute-shaped guitar
using an old fashon Segovian style?
Il 11/10/2016 10:47, Jarosław Lipski ha scritto:
On 11 Oct 2016, at 01:37, Roman Turovsky <r.turov...@gmail.com> wrote:
Not really. There are a lot of factors in LF manufacture that are absent is
this.
Many people play single-strung archlutes with nails, some without. Stephen
Stubbs with, Konrad Junghaenel and Konstantin Bozhinov without.
RT
Sure, I am not criticising anyone. On the contrary, I said Luca’s performance
was very successful. On the other hand one may ask questions like: why someone
plays single strung archlute if there is little evidence for this type of
instrument, why someone uses fingernails if the evidence speaks against using
them, and why someone uses amplification (Noble prize for someone who’ll find
any evidence for this :)) And if all of this is used simultaneously, then one
may assume it is not coincidental. Why? Because it is much more guitar-like,
and most of lute players started their musical education as guitarists. Another
problem is the fear of not being heard by an audience especially when playing
in a group .
Again, I am not criticising, however it should be pointed out that there are 2
ways of looking at authenticity IMHO, and someone who has no experience in
early music may feel a little bit confused.
Best
JL
On 10/10/2016 5:33 PM, Jarosław Lipski wrote:
Name it as you like, for me it’s a Liuto forte. There is another version of RV93
played by Luca here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JB101T_sVog
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JB101T_sVog>
The whole instrument is single strung again, and the evidence for this type of
archlute stringing is very scarce as Howard rightly noticed. Luca uses
fingernails, so this is another factor that influences the overall sound (not
only mics).
JL
On 10 Oct 2016, at 22:28, Roman Turovsky <r.turov...@gmail.com> wrote:
on a good authority of RT.
Luca has at least 2 of these, one with a much longer extension.
RT
On 10/10/2016 4:16 PM, Jarosław Lipski wrote:
Really? Is there any evidence to support this theory?
JL
On 10 Oct 2016, at 22:15, Roman Turovsky <r.turov...@gmail.com> wrote:
It is certainly NOT a liuto-forte, but a single-strung archlute by Luc Breton.
RT
On 10/10/2016 2:06 PM, Jarosław Lipski wrote:
The instrument in question is not an archlute or liuto attiorbato, but a liuto forte.
Some lute players like Luca Pianca, Luciano Contini, Eric Bellocq and many others use
it, however I would be far from saying that this is a historical instrument - see
here http://liuto-forte.com/ueb_00_en.html
<http://liuto-forte.com/ueb_00_en.html> It’s easier to play and was
specially created with guitarists in mind.
Also Lucas fingering in Vivaldi isn’t really Baroque. Having said that,
his performance from musical point of view was successful, and I am glad to see
people talking about music on this list :)
Best
On 10 Oct 2016, at 18:23, howard posner <howardpos...@ca.rr.com> wrote:
On Oct 10, 2016, at 8:33 AM, Diego Cantalupi <tio...@gmail.com> wrote:
The main problem to me, is that the concerto is played in C, and not. in D.
It's easier on a G archlute, but sounds to me very strange for the violins.
Luca plays an archlute/liuto attiorbato in A. I believe Giardino Armonico
plays at A 415. I’m guessing the pitch is lowered on the Youtube video
we’re talking about. This is commonly done to avoid detection by
copyright bots.
Here’s a recording of Giardino and Luca doing the same concerto,
sounding in D at A 415:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0kJwhbZcAM
Of course, it’s possible that the sound is adjusted up on this one.
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