Hmm. Are there -any- professional lute players that don't have at least a few lutes?
S Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Ron Andrico <[email protected]> Date: 3/17/18 6:36 AM (GMT-07:00) To: [email protected], Lutelist <[email protected]> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Some questions Tristan and Mathais, you have hit upon a very important point. While not as expensive as they should be relative to the demanding craftsmanship of construction, lutes are too costly for professional musicians to *collect*. That is a major hurdle to getting lutes into the hands of budding players, and the unfortunate dynamic creates a *class* of lute players that might possibly exclude young persons with both interest and potential. The Lute Society (UK) has had a lute hire program for many years now, enabling interested persons to sample an instrument. The American lute organization has recently implemented what they call a *lute rental* program, an innovation I proposed to them in 2000. I wish they would call it a *lute access* program, placing the emphasis on getting their growing collection of instruments into the hands of potential lutenists, rather than the gory details of renting them. When it's possible for any interested person without the cost barrier, and only then, lutes will seem normal rather than unusual, and the instrument will thrive in the future. RA __________________________________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of [email protected] <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 7:55 AM To: Lutelist Subject: [LUTE] Re: Some questions Funds may be the pivotal point. For my first ten years with the lute I used to play just anything on my one and only 8c lute that Larry Brown had built for Budget Instruments Ltd. By anything I mean anything (Dowland, Bach, Schubert, Wandervogel lieder, Clapton). When funds started to come in, I afforded a swan neck. Then I discovered that an 11 was needed because swan necks aren't best for French Baroque. Then there was that short era of transitional tunings, requiring a 12c double neck. Finally I realised that a liuto attiorbato with single basses is not really the thing for Italian arciliuto music which demands octave strings down to the 14th course. I omit the serious reasoning for the chitarone and the angÃÆ Â©lique. I could have done almost all of that music on my old 8c lute, probably, which still is in good shape. Yet funds were available, and so was my curiosity for new shores to explore. Mathias __________________________________________________________________ Gesendet mit der [1]Telekom Mail App --- Original-Nachricht --- Von: Tristan von Neumann Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Some questions Datum: 17.03.2018, 8:16 Uhr An: lutelist Net Some people don't have the funds to "collect lutes" :) I'm quite happy with 7 courses - it's amazing how just one extra course extends the repertoire well into the 17th century, if you don't mind playing just the upper octaves. Am 17.03.2018 um 02:52 schrieb spiffys84121: > I will play any music on lutes, if it works for that lute. I believe in > using the right tool for the job-- unlike guitarists and pianists who > endeavor to build the whole house with just a hammer. > > My question-- do most lute players only specialize in one repertoire? I > play any lute music from almost the entire history of the lute-- except > medieval. Of course this requires multiple lutes, which I'm happy to > collect and play. I go through phases, like sometimes all I want to do > is play six course music; then all of a sudden baroque lute is all I > care about in life. Right now I'm obsessed with the liuto attiorbato > which I think is the most versatile of all lutes. If for some reason I > had to have only one lute, it would be an attiorbato. One can play > hundreds of years worth of music on it(in a pinch) I'm working on my > version of 'Georga on my Mind' at present. My attiorbatos have a range > of 5 octaves. > > Sterling > > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Leonard Williams <[2][email protected]> > Date: 3/16/18 3:00 PM (GMT-07:00) > To: [3][email protected] > Subject: [LUTE] Re: Some questions > > I, myself, was attracted to the lute, via recorders and other > early > instruments, because I like playing renaissance music. What better > way > to enjoy it than on the instruments for which it was written? If I > were an instructor, I would probably be more inclined to teach > guitarists to read lute-tabbed recercari than to play later music on > the lute. > Leonard > -----Original Message----- > From: Mathias.Roesel <[4][email protected]> > To: [5][email protected] <[6][email protected]> > Sent: Fri, Mar 16, 2018 2:28 pm > Subject: [LUTE] Re: Some questions > Everybody is free to do with their lutes, or should be so, what they > like best. > Gilbert's initial observation was, though, that some 90% of this > tiny > community don't seem to be interested in newly composed music for > the > lute. And I take it that he wasn't referring to the lute mailing > list > community exclusively, but to lute loving folks in general. They're > fully entitled, aren't they, to not be interested. And I hasten to > add > that I myself refuse to get involved in lute religious discussions > about whether or not lutes should be taken to play modern music. I > for > one prefer to pick up the guitar for such purposes. > Mathias > __________________________________________________________________ > Gesendet mit der [1]Telekom Mail App > --- Original-Nachricht --- > Von: Wayne > Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Some questions > Datum: 16.03.2018, 18:01 Uhr > An: lute net > One thing that has not been mentioned is that we have choices - we > all, > or most of us, or some of us, can choose to play a certain part of > our > repertoire on our Les Paul/Marshall, or our classical guitar, or our > romantic guitar, or our bandora, or ukulele or even saxophone or > synth > in some cases. If we can choose to play Spanish music on our vihuela > we > can choose to play Babbit on our (analogue tube) synth. So maybe we > are > overlooking contemporary lute music because we tend to pick up a > different instrument to play something modern. Especially when we > need > to be as loud as everyone else. > Does anyone here not have or play any instrument at all but the > lute? > Wayne > > Begin forwarded message: > > > > From: WALSH STUART <[2][1][7][email protected]> > > Subject: [LUTE] Re: Some questions > > Date: March 16, 2018 at 12:26:07 PM EDT > > > > If it seems odd to want to play modern music on a lute it is > surely > odder to only play a lute and only ever to play music that was > composed > centuries ago. > > > > Perhaps no one is odd enough for that! If there were such a person > - > who would only, ever, play centuries' old music (however gem-laden > it > may be) - would it be enough to say that this choice was the > harmless > choice of a free being? > > > > There is no obvious harm to others in such a case but perhaps it's > a > case of self-harm. > > > -- > To get on or off this list see list information at > [3][2][8]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > -- > References > 1. > > [3][9]http://www.t-online.de/service/redir/email_app_android_sendmail_f oot > [10]er.htm > 2. [4]mailto:[11][email protected] > 3. [5][12]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > -- > References > 1. mailto:[13][email protected] > 2. [14]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > 3. > [15]http://www.t-online.de/service/redir/email_app_android_sendmail_foo ter. > htm > 4. mailto:[16][email protected]? > 5. [17]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > -- References 1. 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