Yes, but they are not "collecting" lutes I guess. They have them because
they can play the music intended for it.
Lute collectors seem mostly wealthy amateurs :)
If I don't play an instrument enough, I give it away or sell it.
Am 17.03.2018 um 22:46 schrieb spiffys84121:
Hmm. Are there -any- professional lute players that don't have at
least a few lutes?
S
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From: Ron Andrico <[email protected]>
Date: 3/17/18 6:36 AM (GMT-07:00)
To: [email protected], Lutelist <[email protected]>
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Some questions
Tristan and Mathais, you have hit upon a very important point.
While
not as expensive as they should be relative to the demanding
craftsmanship of construction, lutes are too costly for professional
musicians to *collect*. That is a major hurdle to getting lutes
into
the hands of budding players, and the unfortunate dynamic creates a
*class* of lute players that might possibly exclude young persons
with
both interest and potential.
The Lute Society (UK) has had a lute hire program for many years
now,
enabling interested persons to sample an instrument. The American
lute
organization has recently implemented what they call a *lute rental*
program, an innovation I proposed to them in 2000. I wish they
would
call it a *lute access* program, placing the emphasis on getting
their
growing collection of instruments into the hands of potential
lutenists, rather than the gory details of renting them.
When it's possible for any interested person without the cost
barrier,
and only then, lutes will seem normal rather than unusual, and the
instrument will thrive in the future.
RA
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To: Lutelist
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Some questions
Funds may be the pivotal point. For my first ten years with the
lute
I
used to play just anything on my one and only 8c lute that Larry
Brown
had built for Budget Instruments Ltd. By anything I mean anything
(Dowland, Bach, Schubert, Wandervogel lieder, Clapton).
When funds started to come in, I afforded a swan neck. Then I
discovered that an 11 was needed because swan necks aren't best
for
French Baroque. Then there was that short era of transitional
tunings,
requiring a 12c double neck. Finally I realised that a liuto
attiorbato
with single basses is not really the thing for Italian arciliuto
music
which demands octave strings down to the 14th course. I omit the
serious reasoning for the chitarone and the angà ©lique.
I could have done almost all of that music on my old 8c lute,
probably,
which still is in good shape. Yet funds were available, and so
was
my
curiosity for new shores to explore.
Mathias
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Von: Tristan von Neumann
Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Some questions
Datum: 17.03.2018, 8:16 Uhr
An: lutelist Net
Some people don't have the funds to "collect lutes" :)
I'm quite happy with 7 courses - it's amazing how just one extra
course
extends the repertoire well into the 17th century, if you don't
mind
playing just the upper octaves.
Am 17.03.2018 um 02:52 schrieb spiffys84121:
> I will play any music on lutes, if it works for that lute. I
believe
in
> using the right tool for the job-- unlike guitarists and
pianists
who
> endeavor to build the whole house with just a hammer.
>
> My question-- do most lute players only specialize in one
repertoire?
I
> play any lute music from almost the entire history of the
lute--
except
> medieval. Of course this requires multiple lutes, which I'm
happy
to
> collect and play. I go through phases, like sometimes all I
want
to
do
> is play six course music; then all of a sudden baroque lute is
all
I
> care about in life. Right now I'm obsessed with the liuto
attiorbato
> which I think is the most versatile of all lutes. If for some
reason
I
> had to have only one lute, it would be an attiorbato. One can
play
> hundreds of years worth of music on it(in a pinch) I'm working
on
my
> version of 'Georga on my Mind' at present. My attiorbatos have
a
range
> of 5 octaves.
>
> Sterling
>
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> -------- Original message --------
> From: Leonard Williams <[2][email protected]>
> Date: 3/16/18 3:00 PM (GMT-07:00)
> To: [3][email protected]
> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Some questions
>
> I, myself, was attracted to the lute, via recorders and other
> early
> instruments, because I like playing renaissance music. What
better
> way
> to enjoy it than on the instruments for which it was written?
If I
> were an instructor, I would probably be more inclined to teach
> guitarists to read lute-tabbed recercari than to play later
music
on
> the lute.
> Leonard
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mathias.Roesel <[4][email protected]>
> To: [5][email protected] <[6][email protected]>
> Sent: Fri, Mar 16, 2018 2:28 pm
> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Some questions
> Everybody is free to do with their lutes, or should be so, what
they
> like best.
> Gilbert's initial observation was, though, that some 90% of
this
> tiny
> community don't seem to be interested in newly composed music
for
> the
> lute. And I take it that he wasn't referring to the lute
mailing
> list
> community exclusively, but to lute loving folks in general.
They're
> fully entitled, aren't they, to not be interested. And I hasten
to
> add
> that I myself refuse to get involved in lute religious
discussions
> about whether or not lutes should be taken to play modern
music. I
> for
> one prefer to pick up the guitar for such purposes.
> Mathias
>
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> --- Original-Nachricht ---
> Von: Wayne
> Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Some questions
> Datum: 16.03.2018, 18:01 Uhr
> An: lute net
> One thing that has not been mentioned is that we have choices -
we
> all,
> or most of us, or some of us, can choose to play a certain part
of
> our
> repertoire on our Les Paul/Marshall, or our classical guitar,
or
our
> romantic guitar, or our bandora, or ukulele or even saxophone
or
> synth
> in some cases. If we can choose to play Spanish music on our
vihuela
> we
> can choose to play Babbit on our (analogue tube) synth. So
maybe
we
> are
> overlooking contemporary lute music because we tend to pick up
a
> different instrument to play something modern. Especially when
we
> need
> to be as loud as everyone else.
> Does anyone here not have or play any instrument at all but the
> lute?
> Wayne
> > Begin forwarded message:
> >
> > From: WALSH STUART <[2][1][7][email protected]>
> > Subject: [LUTE] Re: Some questions
> > Date: March 16, 2018 at 12:26:07 PM EDT
> >
> > If it seems odd to want to play modern music on a lute it is
> surely
> odder to only play a lute and only ever to play music that was
> composed
> centuries ago.
> >
> > Perhaps no one is odd enough for that! If there were such a
person
> -
> who would only, ever, play centuries' old music (however
gem-laden
> it
> may be) - would it be enough to say that this choice was the
> harmless
> choice of a free being?
> >
> > There is no obvious harm to others in such a case but perhaps
it's
> a
> case of self-harm.
> >
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