Hmm. I never thought I'd need to defend my status as a working lute player because I have a 'collection' of six lutes (4 of which I built). So- if i reduce the collection down to one single, silly seven course, then I can be worthy? Yes folks- we're truly livin in the age of trump(;
Sterling Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Tristan von Neumann <[email protected]> Date: 3/17/18 9:37 PM (GMT-07:00) To: lutelist Net <[email protected]> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Some questions Yes, but they are not "collecting" lutes I guess. They have them because they can play the music intended for it. Lute collectors seem mostly wealthy amateurs :) If I don't play an instrument enough, I give it away or sell it. Am 17.03.2018 um 22:46 schrieb spiffys84121: > Hmm. Are there -any- professional lute players that don't have at > least a few lutes? > > S > > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Ron Andrico <[email protected]> > Date: 3/17/18 6:36 AM (GMT-07:00) > To: [email protected], Lutelist <[email protected]> > Subject: [LUTE] Re: Some questions > > Tristan and Mathais, you have hit upon a very important point. > While > not as expensive as they should be relative to the demanding > craftsmanship of construction, lutes are too costly for professional > musicians to *collect*. That is a major hurdle to getting lutes > into > the hands of budding players, and the unfortunate dynamic creates a > *class* of lute players that might possibly exclude young persons > with > both interest and potential. > The Lute Society (UK) has had a lute hire program for many years > now, > enabling interested persons to sample an instrument. The American > lute > organization has recently implemented what they call a *lute rental* > program, an innovation I proposed to them in 2000. I wish they > would > call it a *lute access* program, placing the emphasis on getting > their > growing collection of instruments into the hands of potential > lutenists, rather than the gory details of renting them. > When it's possible for any interested person without the cost > barrier, > and only then, lutes will seem normal rather than unusual, and the > instrument will thrive in the future. > RA > __________________________________________________________________ > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on > behalf > of [email protected] <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 7:55 AM > To: Lutelist > Subject: [LUTE] Re: Some questions > Funds may be the pivotal point. For my first ten years with the > lute > I > used to play just anything on my one and only 8c lute that Larry > Brown > had built for Budget Instruments Ltd. By anything I mean anything > (Dowland, Bach, Schubert, Wandervogel lieder, Clapton). > When funds started to come in, I afforded a swan neck. Then I > discovered that an 11 was needed because swan necks aren't best > for > French Baroque. Then there was that short era of transitional > tunings, > requiring a 12c double neck. Finally I realised that a liuto > attiorbato > with single basses is not really the thing for Italian arciliuto > music > which demands octave strings down to the 14th course. I omit the > serious reasoning for the chitarone and the angÃÆ Â©lique. > I could have done almost all of that music on my old 8c lute, > probably, > which still is in good shape. Yet funds were available, and so > was > my > curiosity for new shores to explore. > Mathias > > __________________________________________________________________ > Gesendet mit der [1]Telekom Mail App > --- Original-Nachricht --- > Von: Tristan von Neumann > Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Some questions > Datum: 17.03.2018, 8:16 Uhr > An: lutelist Net > Some people don't have the funds to "collect lutes" :) > I'm quite happy with 7 courses - it's amazing how just one extra > course > extends the repertoire well into the 17th century, if you don't > mind > playing just the upper octaves. > Am 17.03.2018 um 02:52 schrieb spiffys84121: > > I will play any music on lutes, if it works for that lute. I > believe > in > > using the right tool for the job-- unlike guitarists and > pianists > who > > endeavor to build the whole house with just a hammer. > > > > My question-- do most lute players only specialize in one > repertoire? > I > > play any lute music from almost the entire history of the > lute-- > except > > medieval. Of course this requires multiple lutes, which I'm > happy > to > > collect and play. I go through phases, like sometimes all I > want > to > do > > is play six course music; then all of a sudden baroque lute is > all > I > > care about in life. Right now I'm obsessed with the liuto > attiorbato > > which I think is the most versatile of all lutes. If for some > reason > I > > had to have only one lute, it would be an attiorbato. One can > play > > hundreds of years worth of music on it(in a pinch) I'm working > on > my > > version of 'Georga on my Mind' at present. My attiorbatos have > a > range > > of 5 octaves. > > > > Sterling > > > > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone > > > > -------- Original message -------- > > From: Leonard Williams <[2][email protected]> > > Date: 3/16/18 3:00 PM (GMT-07:00) > > To: [3][email protected] > > Subject: [LUTE] Re: Some questions > > > > I, myself, was attracted to the lute, via recorders and other > > early > > instruments, because I like playing renaissance music. What > better > > way > > to enjoy it than on the instruments for which it was written? > If I > > were an instructor, I would probably be more inclined to teach > > guitarists to read lute-tabbed recercari than to play later > music > on > > the lute. > > Leonard > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mathias.Roesel <[4][email protected]> > > To: [5][email protected] <[6][email protected]> > > Sent: Fri, Mar 16, 2018 2:28 pm > > Subject: [LUTE] Re: Some questions > > Everybody is free to do with their lutes, or should be so, what > they > > like best. > > Gilbert's initial observation was, though, that some 90% of > this > > tiny > > community don't seem to be interested in newly composed music > for > > the > > lute. And I take it that he wasn't referring to the lute > mailing > > list > > community exclusively, but to lute loving folks in general. > They're > > fully entitled, aren't they, to not be interested. And I hasten > to > > add > > that I myself refuse to get involved in lute religious > discussions > > about whether or not lutes should be taken to play modern > music. I > > for > > one prefer to pick up the guitar for such purposes. > > Mathias > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > Gesendet mit der [1]Telekom Mail App > > --- Original-Nachricht --- > > Von: Wayne > > Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Some questions > > Datum: 16.03.2018, 18:01 Uhr > > An: lute net > > One thing that has not been mentioned is that we have choices - > we > > all, > > or most of us, or some of us, can choose to play a certain part > of > > our > > repertoire on our Les Paul/Marshall, or our classical guitar, > or > our > > romantic guitar, or our bandora, or ukulele or even saxophone > or > > synth > > in some cases. If we can choose to play Spanish music on our > vihuela > > we > > can choose to play Babbit on our (analogue tube) synth. So > maybe > we > > are > > overlooking contemporary lute music because we tend to pick up > a > > different instrument to play something modern. Especially when > we > > need > > to be as loud as everyone else. > > Does anyone here not have or play any instrument at all but the > > lute? > > Wayne > > > Begin forwarded message: > > > > > > From: WALSH STUART <[2][1][7][email protected]> > > > Subject: [LUTE] Re: Some questions > > > Date: March 16, 2018 at 12:26:07 PM EDT > > > > > > If it seems odd to want to play modern music on a lute it is > > surely > > odder to only play a lute and only ever to play music that was > > composed > > centuries ago. > > > > > > Perhaps no one is odd enough for that! If there were such a > person > > - > > who would only, ever, play centuries' old music (however > gem-laden > > it > > may be) - would it be enough to say that this choice was the > > harmless > > choice of a free being? > > > > > > There is no obvious harm to others in such a case but perhaps > it's > > a > > case of self-harm. > > > > > -- > > To get on or off this list see list information at > > [3][2][8]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > -- > > References > > 1. > > > > > > [3][9]http://www.t-online.de/service/redir/email_app_android_sendmail_f > oot > > [10]er.htm > > 2. [4]mailto:[11][email protected] > > 3. > [5][12]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > -- > > References > > 1. mailto:[13][email protected] > > 2. [14]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > 3. > > > > [15]http://www.t-online.de/service/redir/email_app_android_sendmail_foo > ter. > > htm > > 4. mailto:[16][email protected]? > > 5. 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