Hello! Stephan Sokolow has written on Sunday, 1 December, at 10:47: >For "View > Save for This Folder", I'm a bit concerned that users may >not always realize that it means "Save View for This Folder". It's not >exactly common to make the menu name an implicit but integral part of >the menu item's name.
>Beginning the option name with an ellipsis would fix that but it's too
>ugly to contemplate when there are better options available.
>I didn't sleep well, so I'm having trouble thinking of a better
>phrasing, but considering "Save View for This Folder" reveals that there
>are two problems with the original:
>1. "Save for this folder"? Save WHAT? Am I turning off the ability for
>applications to save things here? Is it a grammatically-flawed attempt
>to provide an analogue to "Show Hidden" for save files?
Well, it is in the bottom of menu subsection (with separators above
and below the subsection) so that implies the meaning 'save for settings
in this subsection'. But I have to agree that it is not so obvious.
>2. What does it mean to "Save the view for this folder"?
>I'm having trouble thinking of more compact ways to write the whole item
>name but "Remember" would be a better word to use than "Save".
>- While you are technically saving the settings, "Save" has become
>associated with documents and/or explicit user action and you don't want
>to muddy the waters.
>- "Remember" is the verb that has become associated with preserving
>non-document things (passwords, settings, etc.) which wouldn't normally
>be preserved.
>That just leaves finding a clearer, more compact way to say "the view
>for this folder" and that's where I'm having trouble.
>So far, the most compact things I've come up with which are still
>somewhat clear are "Remember Folder View Mode" or "Remember View Mode
>Here" ...neither of which are ideal.
Well, it is not about view mode but also for sorting and show hidden
setting. And it should have emphasis those settings are remembered only
for current folder only if that option is checked, otherwise the common
settings will be applied. May be "Remember This Folder View/Sort Modes"
is better then? It is long unfortunately, even longer than the string in
the menu which is the longest now: "Open Current Folder in Terminal". :(
>As for the dialog headers, I have mixed comments:
>1. I do agree that the GNOME string is more clear than the libfm one.
>The libfm one states a fact and lets the user infer further action from
>context while the GNOME one gives an explicit instruction.
>2. I think the GNOME string doesn't go far enough and would be better if
>it said "Select an application to open 'NAME' files" rather than "Select
>and application for 'NAME' files".
>When using "application for" rather than "application to open", it takes
>extra thought to parse since its meaning must be disambiguated by
>looking at what follows.
>Also, while "select an application for" is valid English, it's the kind
>of phrasing that only feels natural in conversational contexts where not
>much thought is given to the phrasing so long as the listener
>understands what was said.
Thank you very much. Sounds very sensible, I'll change it to the
string you've proposed.
>I'm too busy to upgrade off Lubuntu 12.04 or set up my own build
>environment right now so I can't comment on the libfm tooltip or footer
>unless you provide a screenshot.
Well, it is not different from any previous versions in that place.
I'm trying to attach a screenshot to this letter and hope it may help to
understand what I meant then:
>> And also tooltip just below the tab may be a bit confusing because
>> it's not any different from all other text in the dialog window, I think
>> it should show the tooltip on tab buttons instead. What do you think?
>Likewise with the dual-pane mode... which is a shame because that's one
>of the few things about Dolphin that I've always wanted to see in other
>file managers. (Konqueror's is too awkward when you just want to briefly
>switch to dual-pane to do some drag-and-drop file-sorting and then go
>back to normal.)
Well, since there are no feedbacks on that, I'll probably push it
into the master branch in a day or two so you can easily upgrade it in
your system without compiling it (just use lubuntu-dev PPA). :)
Thank you very much.
With best regards.
Andriy.<<attachment: 2013-12-01-182248_448x416_scrot.png>>
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