I can understand somewhat not including a DVD drive with themacbook air, many computers of that size do not include these. But I think removing the DVD drive from the mac mini is going too far. There will probably come a time when disks will no longer be used, but we are not there yet. I still use dvd drives quite a bit, even it's for playing audio disks. On Jul 30, 2011, at 4:05 PM, Gordon Smith wrote:
> Hi Jonathan > > Actually you're mistaken about the Command+R option, it works on every Lion > installation on every machine I believe. Certainly it works on our 2009 > MacBook Pro, my work machines and also their Mac Pros. > > But I believe that, although Apple is pushing the bounds, they're pushing > things too far too fast. The reason is simple: As you quite rightly say, > the availability of uncapped high-speed Internet connectivity is sparse in > places and it turns the availability of Lion into a bit of what we'd call a > "Post Code (you'd call it a zip code) lottery. > > Gordon > > > On 30 Jul 2011, at 20:56, Jon Cohn wrote: > > Gordon, > > What I have read is that this is true with all of the hardware that was > shipped with Lion on it. Apparently the Lion on the new systems is slightly > different from the Lion being shipped via the AppStore. > > One important new feature that is only available on the new Air's and Mini's > is the option-command-R at boot. This will download a copy of Lion from the > Apple even if the recovery partition has been corrupted or destroyed. > > The complaints I hear now remind me very much of when Apple decided to ship > the first iMac computers with a CD and no floppy of any kind. People kept > asking about how software installs would work... I don't believe that > affordable high speed network access is sufficiently available at this time, > but perhaps Apple is just a wee bit ahead of their time once again. There > were options when the floppy was dropped as standard and there are options > now for the optical storage. We won't really know if the dropping of Apple > optical media was a mistake or just another branch in the evolution of the > computer. One thing is definitely true, and that is it will save Apple on > not only the initial hardware but on repairs to the fragile drives. I would > expect that everybody in this group knows somebody who had a optical drive > stop working. > > Jonathan > > On Jul 30, 2011, at 2:24 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: > >> Hi Nic >> >> It's worth pointing out again that the DVD option doesn't work on the server >> hardware. >> >> Gordon >> >> On 30 Jul 2011, at 17:57, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >> >> Hi! >> >> Yeah, the button is definitely there. I've done it, too, but it's kind of a >> roundabout way of performing a clean install. The fastest way I've found so >> far was to burn it to a DVD, then use Disk utilities on that DVD to format >> the drive and install the operating system. Installing OS X Lion, then >> launching its recovery partition only to reformat, then download the image >> off of Apple's servers seems ridiculous, even though that seems to be the >> method Apple even recommends. I guess, in truth, it was meant as an upgrade >> from Snow Leopard to Lion given its distribution through the App Store, and >> I can see why. Since the Recovery Partition it carves out needs the >> Application later in order to get access to the disk image on your internal >> drive, it can't format the drive nor reinstall it from scratch without a DVD >> or downloading a new installer. 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