Hi Gordon,

I completely agree with you. I haven't personally experienced most of these 
bugs people are reporting, so that could mean a lot of things including user 
error, and the inability to understand how a feature works. One example is that 
previously in Snow Leopard, when downloading a file, a window would open. In 
lion, these downloads appear in so-called "popovers," and is accessed via a 
"Downloads" button in the Safari toolbar. While some bugs definitely exist, as 
no operating system is perfect, it's far from bad enough to not purchase an 
iMac if you want one. Back in Snow Leopard, some general Safari bugs were also 
due to the Webkit engine Safari used to render HTML content, and updating this 
fixed a lot of issues and this still seems to be the case under OS X Lion.

While the regular OS X Lion does have bugs, they're not as bad as they seem. Of 
course, depending on what you may consider a showstopper they may be quite 
numerous, but if you're not too worried about using possible workarounds until 
a bug is addressed, I think you'll be fine. I tend to nitpick often when using 
an operating system, and Mac OS X is also one of them, so I sometimes get very 
critical. However, a bug such as VoiceOver not always being able to detect web 
elements when using commands to jump to them has a workaround, and is also 
investigation. That is one important thing to understand.

As Lynne pointed out in an earlier email, if a bug is not addressed straight 
away it is probably under investigation. Even if a bug sounds very simple to 
fix, that does not mean that it is necessarily a simple cause or solution. 
While Apple does have a devoted accessibility team, that doesn't mean that the 
fix will be included in the latest update depending on whether or not they can 
manage to squeeze it into the update.

Every time someone buys a Mac, I always recommend trying one if you have a 
friend who owns a Mac, or simply go to the store. While you won't exactly get a 
perfect picture in most cases, you may be able to find out if you want to 
actually try to get to grips with VoiceOver.

I wish you luck, in any case.

Regards,
Nic
On Aug 1, 2011, at 12:33 PM, Gordon Smith wrote:

> David
> 
> The issues only really affect Lion Server, not the regular edition that you'd 
> get.
> 
> Don't be put off by the pessimists.  Those who can't get it working and so, 
> unreservedly, just condemn.
> 
> I'm having horrendous problems with Lion Server; but let me tell you that 
> there's far more that's right about Lion than wrong.
> 
> Gordon
> 
> On 1 Aug 2011, at 07:37, David Griffith wrote:
> 
> The torrent of issues with Lion reported on this list over the last few days
> has slightly shaken my confidence in the Mac. I was going to order my I Mac
> today. I do not think I will be doing so now. Certainly mails with subjects
> like Shame on you Apple are food for thought.
> Now it  seems sensible to hold on any order until at least some of these
> issues are resolved. The  issues about difficulties with Mail and Safari web
> browsing and RSS are particularly worrying . These are core basic functions
> I need an accessible computer to work well with. Certainly for the money
> Apple are asking me for.
> It will be a challenge  getting to grips with a new system anyway without
> also having to grapple with accessibility bugs at the same time.
> It will also be annoying if the first thing I have to do is apply corrective
> upgrades and patches. Ideally you should be able to return to the original
> install confident everything works well.
> 
> This is disappointing as part of my reason for moving to the Mac was the
> belief that it had in built in accessibility upgrades.  Now it seems
> upgrades include risks of accessibility lock out just as much as evident on
> Windows machines over the years.
> 
> Any comments
> 
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