AT&T will also be providing VIOP with or without U Verse.  At least they 
provide battery backup. The lines going down is another issue.  Most Power and 
cable/phone are not on the same poles.  In many areas it is a mix of 
underground and poles.  



Dr. James Priest PhD
Fire Strategist & Researcher 
[email protected]










On Jul 11, 2013, at 8:26 AM, John Robinson <[email protected]> wrote:

> Not sure what you mean Ed, if AT&T is not allowed to have phone lines why 
> would they maintain the infrastructure?  Yes, if a limb takes down a pole 
> both the phone and cable go out but if there are no longer landlines through 
> AT&T (and any other Bell or independent phone company)  what is their reward 
> for keeping all this maintained?   Maybe you meant something else.  
> 
> I am interested in how this is going to hurt AT&T's bottom line, and will the 
> institutions (62.2% of their stock held by institutions) begin to dump and we 
> all know what that can mean to a company i.e., Apple when the herd mentality 
> work in unison.  
> 
> For we users I guess we have to understand we will all be going to TWC for 
> phone and TV and internet.  We will have to get used to the horrors of 
> dealing with TWC and we'll need to consider if we really want to go U-verse 
> if in a few short years it won't be around.   
> 
> 
> 
> On Jul 11, 2013, at 9:10 AM, "Wiser, Ed" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Cable goes out Phones go out.
>>  
>> From: [email protected] 
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John 
>> Robinson
>> Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 8:34 AM
>> To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers
>> Subject: Re: [MacGroup] Time Warner Speed Issues and 911
>>  
>> James,
>>  
>> To follow up on this, all the discussion on this list about the good and bad 
>> between AT&T and Insight are really mute conversations, we ALL are going to 
>> have to go to TWC for landline phones in the not too distant future no 
>> matter our preference.  
>>  
>> So, what will AT&T be doing with all their employees?  Will they still be 
>> required to maintain the infrastructure so the cable guys will have a pole 
>> to hang their wire?  When there is a storm that takes out their lines (that 
>> then will go to nowhere for AT&T) will they be required to do the repairs?  
>> How will their revenue stream be replaced, the little old ladies that depend 
>> on the (current) 5.06% dividend, will that be greatly reduced?  WOW, lots to 
>> think about.
>>  
>> John
>>  
>>  
>> On Jul 11, 2013, at 8:08 AM, Dr. James Priest <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Within 5 years the POTS lines will be a thing of the past. The FCC ruled 3 
>> years ago they had 8 years eliminate.  In some areas it is gone altogether. 
>> 
>> Dr. James Priest PhD 
>> Sr. Fire Strategist/Researcher
>> 
>> On Jul 10, 2013, at 1:21 PM, Jonathan Fletcher <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> On Jul 10, 2013, at 12:38 PM, "Richard D. Meadows" <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Who is the private service who does the charts and graphs and speed detail?  
>> Approximate Cost?
>>  
>> We still have POTS at home as well as our cell phones.  I would not go to 
>> Insight to TWC for phone service.  
>>  
>>  
>> Richard,
>>  
>> It is a company called SamKnows. They sent me a letter and asked if I wanted 
>> to participate for free. It appears from their site that anyone can sing up 
>> for it: http://www.samknows.com
>>  
>> I do not know if they charge others for it, but I know they don't charge me. 
>> They send you a box that you install between your internet service and your 
>> router. It appears to be a small wireless router that is re-flashed with 
>> their own monitoring software. It was simple (for me) to install and those 
>> monthly reports are a comfort knowing exactly what my service has been 
>> without going to the speed testing sites every few hours all month (which, 
>> of course, is not really doable).
>>  
>> As to the phone stuff, I actually like my Insight phone line better than the 
>> third party service that I got for my second (business) line. Features, 
>> price and call quality are all better.
>>  
>> j.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
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