I don't understand where all this talk about landlines going away is coming from. Did I miss something in the thread? Is there an article someone can point us to? And what are POTS? Jim
On Jul 11, 2013, at 9:59 AM, John Robinson wrote: > > It's fiber to the closest AT&T substation. I have one about 3/4 a mile from > me, exactly 500 feet too far for me to sign up. > > About a year ago they said their map qualified me, I signed up. The tech > from Indianapolis came out and said the substation with the fiber was 500 > feet too far away, copper is used to run to the homes. I felt I was cheated > for the crazy folks ran under a 4 lane highway to a box on the other side, > they used copper for this and had they put fiber under the highway I would > have been close enough, however if phone lines are going away I am not sure > how many on U-verse will be affected. > > I guess if fiber is on the pole outside your home you are O.K., but an > installation like most of us have in our area are going to be out of luck if > the landlines have to go away for none of our area is wired with fiber, only > the trunk line. > > > On Jul 11, 2013, at 9:50 AM, Ed Wiser <[email protected]> wrote: > >> U verse is a fiber optic based system so it has a higher band width than the >> current cable lines in town. >> — >> Sent from Mailbox for iPhone >> >> >> On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 9:27 AM, John Robinson <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Not sure what you mean Ed, if AT&T is not allowed to have phone lines why >> would they maintain the infrastructure? Yes, if a limb takes down a pole >> both the phone and cable go out but if there are no longer landlines through >> AT&T (and any other Bell or independent phone company) what is their reward >> for keeping all this maintained? Maybe you meant something else. >> >> I am interested in how this is going to hurt AT&T's bottom line, and will >> the institutions (62.2% of their stock held by institutions) begin to dump >> and we all know what that can mean to a company i.e., Apple when the herd >> mentality work in unison. >> >> For we users I guess we have to understand we will all be going to TWC for >> phone and TV and internet. We will have to get used to the horrors of >> dealing with TWC and we'll need to consider if we really want to go U-verse >> if in a few short years it won't be around. >> >> >> >> On Jul 11, 2013, at 9:10 AM, "Wiser, Ed" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Cable goes out Phones go out. >>> >>> From: [email protected] >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John >>> Robinson >>> Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 8:34 AM >>> To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers >>> Subject: Re: [MacGroup] Time Warner Speed Issues and 911 >>> >>> James, >>> >>> To follow up on this, all the discussion on this list about the good and >>> bad between AT&T and Insight are really mute conversations, we ALL are >>> going to have to go to TWC for landline phones in the not too distant >>> future no matter our preference. >>> >>> So, what will AT&T be doing with all their employees? Will they still be >>> required to maintain the infrastructure so the cable guys will have a pole >>> to hang their wire? When there is a storm that takes out their lines (that >>> then will go to nowhere for AT&T) will they be required to do the repairs? >>> How will their revenue stream be replaced, the little old ladies that >>> depend on the (current) 5.06% dividend, will that be greatly reduced? WOW, >>> lots to think about. >>> >>> John >>> >>> >>> On Jul 11, 2013, at 8:08 AM, Dr. James Priest <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Within 5 years the POTS lines will be a thing of the past. The FCC ruled 3 >>> years ago they had 8 years eliminate. In some areas it is gone altogether. >>> >>> Dr. James Priest PhD >>> Sr. Fire Strategist/Researcher >>> >>> On Jul 10, 2013, at 1:21 PM, Jonathan Fletcher <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> On Jul 10, 2013, at 12:38 PM, "Richard D. Meadows" <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Who is the private service who does the charts and graphs and speed detail? >>> Approximate Cost? >>> >>> We still have POTS at home as well as our cell phones. I would not go to >>> Insight to TWC for phone service. >>> >>> >>> Richard, >>> >>> It is a company called SamKnows. They sent me a letter and asked if I >>> wanted to participate for free. It appears from their site that anyone can >>> sing up for it: http://www.samknows.com >>> >>> I do not know if they charge others for it, but I know they don't charge >>> me. They send you a box that you install between your internet service and >>> your router. It appears to be a small wireless router that is re-flashed >>> with their own monitoring software. It was simple (for me) to install and >>> those monthly reports are a comfort knowing exactly what my service has >>> been without going to the speed testing sites every few hours all month >>> (which, of course, is not really doable). >>> >>> As to the phone stuff, I actually like my Insight phone line better than >>> the third party service that I got for my second (business) line. 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