Don't know in this case but it's usually call LOBBYIST For years the public has clamored for cafeteria cable, lobbyist have killed it every time, give the politicians a break, how else are they going to retire multimillionaires!!
John On Jul 11, 2013, at 6:24 PM, "Dr. James Priest" <[email protected]> wrote: > After all the regulation to give us a system that is somewhat reliable when > the power goes off ( if the lines are up) they through it all out the window. > Only a small about of cell towers have a generator. Cell towers become so > over whelmed fast so don't count on them it 100s are making calls on the same > tower if it has back up. Yes, the cell companies do bring in equipment > within a day or so. Does not do you much good in a mass emergency. I still > would like to know how our local leaders allowed TW to not provide even a few > hours of backup. > > > Dr. James Priest PhD > Fire Strategist & Researcher > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 11, 2013, at 3:20 PM, Richard D. Meadows <[email protected]> wrote: > >> POTS = Plain Old Telephone System. Your copper land line. >> >> The FCC in their infinite wisdom told Telephone companies some years ago >> they could do away with those old land lines. Didn't ask us or at least not >> me. So in like 5 more years the bells no longer have to provide them. I >> have a friend in Louisville who still has an analog POTS line in his house. >> Dial Phone and all. Refuses to get that new kind of phone with the beeps. >> >> >> Richard Meadows >> Co-Founder & Chief Connection Officer >> Berndows Enterprise LLC >> 502-593-5830 >> >> On Jul 11, 2013, at 4:12 PM, Jim Bennett <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I don't understand where all this talk about landlines going away is coming >>> from. Did I miss something in the thread? Is there an article someone can >>> point us to? And what are POTS? >>> Jim >>> >>> On Jul 11, 2013, at 9:59 AM, John Robinson wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> It's fiber to the closest AT&T substation. I have one about 3/4 a mile >>>> from me, exactly 500 feet too far for me to sign up. >>>> >>>> About a year ago they said their map qualified me, I signed up. The tech >>>> from Indianapolis came out and said the substation with the fiber was 500 >>>> feet too far away, copper is used to run to the homes. I felt I was >>>> cheated for the crazy folks ran under a 4 lane highway to a box on the >>>> other side, they used copper for this and had they put fiber under the >>>> highway I would have been close enough, however if phone lines are going >>>> away I am not sure how many on U-verse will be affected. >>>> >>>> I guess if fiber is on the pole outside your home you are O.K., but an >>>> installation like most of us have in our area are going to be out of luck >>>> if the landlines have to go away for none of our area is wired with fiber, >>>> only the trunk line. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jul 11, 2013, at 9:50 AM, Ed Wiser <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> U verse is a fiber optic based system so it has a higher band width than >>>>> the current cable lines in town. >>>>> — >>>>> Sent from Mailbox for iPhone >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 9:27 AM, John Robinson <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Not sure what you mean Ed, if AT&T is not allowed to have phone lines why >>>>> would they maintain the infrastructure? Yes, if a limb takes down a pole >>>>> both the phone and cable go out but if there are no longer landlines >>>>> through AT&T (and any other Bell or independent phone company) what is >>>>> their reward for keeping all this maintained? Maybe you meant something >>>>> else. >>>>> >>>>> I am interested in how this is going to hurt AT&T's bottom line, and will >>>>> the institutions (62.2% of their stock held by institutions) begin to >>>>> dump and we all know what that can mean to a company i.e., Apple when the >>>>> herd mentality work in unison. >>>>> >>>>> For we users I guess we have to understand we will all be going to TWC >>>>> for phone and TV and internet. We will have to get used to the horrors >>>>> of dealing with TWC and we'll need to consider if we really want to go >>>>> U-verse if in a few short years it won't be around. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jul 11, 2013, at 9:10 AM, "Wiser, Ed" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Cable goes out Phones go out. >>>>>> >>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John >>>>>> Robinson >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 8:34 AM >>>>>> To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers >>>>>> Subject: Re: [MacGroup] Time Warner Speed Issues and 911 >>>>>> >>>>>> James, >>>>>> >>>>>> To follow up on this, all the discussion on this list about the good and >>>>>> bad between AT&T and Insight are really mute conversations, we ALL are >>>>>> going to have to go to TWC for landline phones in the not too distant >>>>>> future no matter our preference. >>>>>> >>>>>> So, what will AT&T be doing with all their employees? Will they still >>>>>> be required to maintain the infrastructure so the cable guys will have a >>>>>> pole to hang their wire? When there is a storm that takes out their >>>>>> lines (that then will go to nowhere for AT&T) will they be required to >>>>>> do the repairs? How will their revenue stream be replaced, the little >>>>>> old ladies that depend on the (current) 5.06% dividend, will that be >>>>>> greatly reduced? WOW, lots to think about. >>>>>> >>>>>> John >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jul 11, 2013, at 8:08 AM, Dr. James Priest >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Within 5 years the POTS lines will be a thing of the past. The FCC ruled >>>>>> 3 years ago they had 8 years eliminate. In some areas it is gone >>>>>> altogether. >>>>>> >>>>>> Dr. James Priest PhD >>>>>> Sr. Fire Strategist/Researcher >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jul 10, 2013, at 1:21 PM, Jonathan Fletcher <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jul 10, 2013, at 12:38 PM, "Richard D. Meadows" <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Who is the private service who does the charts and graphs and speed >>>>>> detail? Approximate Cost? >>>>>> >>>>>> We still have POTS at home as well as our cell phones. I would not go >>>>>> to Insight to TWC for phone service. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Richard, >>>>>> >>>>>> It is a company called SamKnows. They sent me a letter and asked if I >>>>>> wanted to participate for free. It appears from their site that anyone >>>>>> can sing up for it: http://www.samknows.com >>>>>> >>>>>> I do not know if they charge others for it, but I know they don't charge >>>>>> me. They send you a box that you install between your internet service >>>>>> and your router. It appears to be a small wireless router that is >>>>>> re-flashed with their own monitoring software. It was simple (for me) to >>>>>> install and those monthly reports are a comfort knowing exactly what my >>>>>> service has been without going to the speed testing sites every few >>>>>> hours all month (which, of course, is not really doable). >>>>>> >>>>>> As to the phone stuff, I actually like my Insight phone line better than >>>>>> the third party service that I got for my second (business) line. >>>>>> Features, price and call quality are all better. >>>>>> >>>>>> j. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Jonathan Fletcher >>>>>> FileMaker 9/10/11/12 Certified Developer >>>>>> >>>>>> Fletcher Data Consulting >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://www.fletcherdata.com >>>>>> 502-509-7137 >>>>>> >>>>>> Personal miscellany online at http://jfletch.posthaven.com >>>>>> >>>>>> Kentuckiana's FileMaker Developers Group >>>>>> Next meeting: FileMaker<=>QuickBooks >>>>>> Tuesday, July 23rd, noon to 3:30-ish >>>>>> http://www.kyfmp.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Jonathan Fletcher >>>>>> FileMaker 9/10/11/12 Certified Developer >>>>>> >>>>>> Fletcher Data Consulting >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://www.fletcherdata.com >>>>>> 502-509-7137 >>>>>> >>>>>> Personal miscellany online at http://jfletch.posthaven.com >>>>>> >>>>>> Kentuckiana's FileMaker Developers Group >>>>>> Next meeting: FileMaker<=>QuickBooks >>>>>> Tuesday, July 23rd, noon to 3:30-ish >>>>>> http://www.kyfmp.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> MacGroup mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> MacGroup mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> If you are not the intended addressee indicated in this message (or >>>>>> responsible for delivery of the message to such person), you may not >>>>>> copy or deliver this message to anyone. 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