Bummer Tom, it seems our institutions often fail us.
> On Aug 11, 2017, at 2:09 PM, tom holloman <[email protected]> wrote: > > I gave up on consumer reports long ago. Their auto reports were very biased. > Kinda like the UL label. I consulted with a company back in early eighties > that wanted the UL sticker. They sent a team to inspect the item and did very > little testing, just looked at it and were more concerned on where we were > taking them out to eat. > > > On Aug 11, 2017, at 5:35 AM, John Robinson <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> Exactly Lee but this was a survey of 91,000 people between 2014 and 2017 >> with their experiences rather than Consumer Report testing….that’s a pretty >> large sample..and similar to the methodology on Auto reliability….I’ve even >> had a few of their questionnaires mailed to me for completion…. >> >> This is more trustworthy than your example below for us to decide to make a >> purchase. I used these reliability numbers to purchase our last Washer and >> Dryer as well as other products…It’s like looking for consumer ratings of a >> product when shopping on line….there have been many items I thought I wanted >> until I read the reviews…..it’s the same with the Surface….if this many >> folks are having problems it’s not a product I want to purchase and am >> thankful the information is made available to us. >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Aug 11, 2017, at 11:26 AM, Lee Larson <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> On Aug 10, 2017, at 9:32 PM, John Robinson <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>>> If you have friends considering these products you might want to have them >>>> check Consumer Reports…… >>> >>> I long ago stopped trusting Consumer Reports for much of anything except >>> cars and home appliances—the stuff they test all the time and for which >>> they have developed expertise. >>> >>> Years ago, I saw a report they completely messed up on bicycle brake pads. >>> I knew something about bicycle brake pads because I used to be a pretty >>> serious cyclist. They took a weighted bicycle wheel in a test jig and spun >>> it up to a certain rpm and tested how quickly different pads could bring it >>> to a stop. The highest rated were the ones that stopped it most quickly. >>> The problem was good pads are designed to provide even friction and steady >>> slowing because locking the wheel is a bad thing. For example, so you don’t >>> go over the handlebars, if you just tap the front brake. >>> >>> I’ve always been annoyed by their methodology and conclusions when testing >>> computers. >>> >>> Then there’s the recent débâcle over the iPhone 4 antenna and flawed >>> battery testing method in the 2016 MacBook Pro. (They recanted both of >>> these.) >>> >>> L^2 >>> >>> --- >>> Lee Larson [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> >>> The laws of mathematics are very commendable, but the only law that >>> applies in Australia is the law of Australia. — Malcolm Turnbull >>> Australian Prime Minister, July 14, 2017 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> MacGroup mailing list >>> Posting address: [email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>> Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/>> >>> Answers to questions: <http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup/ >>> <http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup/>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> MacGroup mailing list >> Posting address: [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >> <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/>> >> Answers to questions: <http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup/ >> <http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup/>> > _______________________________________________ > MacGroup mailing list > Posting address: [email protected] > Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/> > Answers to questions: <http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup/>
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