I sent a link separately to a podcast I listen to- ‘Reply All’, that asked if Facebook was using our phone/ computer’s mics to listen. Here it is for this thread: Listen to #109 Is Facebook Spying on You? from Reply All in Podcasts. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__itunes.apple.com_us_podcast_reply-2Dall_id941907967-3Fmt-3D2-26i-3D1000394325441&d=DwIFaQ&c=OAG1LQNACBDguGvBeNj18Swhr9TMTjS-x4O_KuapPgY&r=F2GFXrjLFqVo3VwvIlo_XYeEiRRjHv15rxcenz7A21woG2aFGcrzndoSsskxfmOs&m=EynNfjC0IgQHlcEwCVglqsKtLLlMB2lDR74nAlu2o3U&s=GQHd0EIlILBhG-HK7OHGSZtAUggGaAO0lrs1nzymREg&e=
"It’s the sides of the mountain which sustain life, not the top.” > On Apr 29, 2018, at 1:56 PM, John Robinson <[email protected]> wrote: > > I think the only possibility is an App that may have slipped by Apple. What > I think is more plausible is the home is leased throughout the year, either > the gal that owns it has a device that she keeps track of the tenants & > doesn’t want to admit or one of the tenants has installed something. I’ve > sent her all my suggestions including installing a Fingbox so she can track > what’s on her network & be notified when something had been added. I’m sure > there’s an explanation > > John > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Apr 29, 2018, at 1:41 PM, tom holloman <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hopefully you find out it’s not an Apple device listening. >> >>> On Apr 28, 2018, at 6:25 PM, John Robinson <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Sounds reasonable Tom…there has to be an explanation. This wasn’t in a >>> hotel, it’s the vacation home of one of the girls. I’m going to write her >>> in the morning attempting to get more info. about the house. I know that >>> many of the smart TV’s can be controlled by outside forces, turning on the >>> camera and I assume the microphones….some folks put tape over the camera to >>> attempt some privacy… >>> >>> These ladies are quite sharp, well educated, tech savvy, the lady that owns >>> the home I put into Mac computer’s years ago, her husband is a Windows guy >>> but she wanted to go Mac so I took a day off and went to her home to >>> instruct her on a few items, she caught on quickly and only contacted me a >>> couple times later, now she is well versed and I never hear from her… >>> >>> I say this only to explain they aren’t the type that can hardly find the on >>> button…while there my daughter rewrote a Real Estate contract, sent to her >>> client for their signature then sent the signed document to the seller’s >>> agent…she also wrote an offer on another piece of property for another >>> client, all on her iPad…. >>> >>> But understanding how their voices could direct advertising is something >>> they want to understand. >>> >>> John >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Apr 28, 2018, at 11:32 PM, tom holloman <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Is this 1984? >>>> >>>> On Sat, Apr 28, 2018 at 4:50 PM John Robinson <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> My daughter and two of her friends went to Hilton Head for a few days. >>>>> All three use nothing but Apple Products, there is an Apple TV in the >>>>> home, iPads, and three iPhones that belong to each of the ladies. >>>>> >>>>> One evening they were discussing a product, TV was not on, Apple TV was >>>>> not on. None of them had their iPhones on, none of them were using their >>>>> phones to do a search for the product. >>>>> >>>>> The next morning all three of the iPhones popped up advertisements for >>>>> the product they had ONLY verbally been discussing the evening >>>>> before….freaked them out. >>>>> >>>>> So, they tried it again, shutting off everything but leaving the phones >>>>> in their purses. They discussed a completely different product…sure >>>>> enough all three soon received information on this new subject. >>>>> >>>>> We all know that doing a search for a product will bring scads of >>>>> advertisements for the product and competing products.. >>>>> >>>>> But, if there were no searches, only verbal discussions how is this >>>>> information being harvested by some devise in the home. I don’t know if >>>>> they have an Echo or an Alexa. I suppose if they do then even if the >>>>> devise is spying on them how does it know each of their email addresses? >>>>> If they had been emailing the night before do these devices have the >>>>> ability to skim the packets and obtain their emails? >>>>> >>>>> If they don’t have an Echo or Alexa (and I’ll check) does anyone have a >>>>> clue how this could happen? >>>>> >>>>> What if they have an Alarm system, could it be listening and selling the >>>>> info. to Amazon and others? >>>>> >>>>> I told them I would ask the group to see what you thought. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks a bunch, >>>>> >>>>> John >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> MacGroup mailing list >>>>> Posting address: [email protected] >>>>> Archive: >>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.mail-2Darchive.com_macgroup-40erdos.math.louisville.edu_&d=DwIFaQ&c=OAG1LQNACBDguGvBeNj18Swhr9TMTjS-x4O_KuapPgY&r=F2GFXrjLFqVo3VwvIlo_XYeEiRRjHv15rxcenz7A21woG2aFGcrzndoSsskxfmOs&m=EynNfjC0IgQHlcEwCVglqsKtLLlMB2lDR74nAlu2o3U&s=P_7ric4S-qZ_lyZjiGglpAmVqvUdvYaPtTTzYUS8IKo&e=> >>>>> Answers to questions: <http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup/> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> MacGroup mailing list >>>> Posting address: [email protected] >>>> Archive: >>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.mail-2Darchive.com_macgroup-40erdos.math.louisville.edu_&d=DwIFaQ&c=OAG1LQNACBDguGvBeNj18Swhr9TMTjS-x4O_KuapPgY&r=F2GFXrjLFqVo3VwvIlo_XYeEiRRjHv15rxcenz7A21woG2aFGcrzndoSsskxfmOs&m=EynNfjC0IgQHlcEwCVglqsKtLLlMB2lDR74nAlu2o3U&s=P_7ric4S-qZ_lyZjiGglpAmVqvUdvYaPtTTzYUS8IKo&e=> >>>> Answers to questions: <http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup/> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> MacGroup mailing list >>> Posting address: [email protected] >>> Archive: >>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.mail-2Darchive.com_macgroup-40erdos.math.louisville.edu_&d=DwIFaQ&c=OAG1LQNACBDguGvBeNj18Swhr9TMTjS-x4O_KuapPgY&r=F2GFXrjLFqVo3VwvIlo_XYeEiRRjHv15rxcenz7A21woG2aFGcrzndoSsskxfmOs&m=EynNfjC0IgQHlcEwCVglqsKtLLlMB2lDR74nAlu2o3U&s=P_7ric4S-qZ_lyZjiGglpAmVqvUdvYaPtTTzYUS8IKo&e=> >>> Answers to questions: <http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup/> >> _______________________________________________ >> MacGroup mailing list >> Posting address: [email protected] >> Archive: >> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.mail-2Darchive.com_macgroup-40erdos.math.louisville.edu_&d=DwIFaQ&c=OAG1LQNACBDguGvBeNj18Swhr9TMTjS-x4O_KuapPgY&r=F2GFXrjLFqVo3VwvIlo_XYeEiRRjHv15rxcenz7A21woG2aFGcrzndoSsskxfmOs&m=EynNfjC0IgQHlcEwCVglqsKtLLlMB2lDR74nAlu2o3U&s=P_7ric4S-qZ_lyZjiGglpAmVqvUdvYaPtTTzYUS8IKo&e=> >> Answers to questions: <http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup/> > _______________________________________________ > MacGroup mailing list > Posting address: [email protected] > Archive: > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.mail-2Darchive.com_macgroup-40erdos.math.louisville.edu_&d=DwIFaQ&c=OAG1LQNACBDguGvBeNj18Swhr9TMTjS-x4O_KuapPgY&r=F2GFXrjLFqVo3VwvIlo_XYeEiRRjHv15rxcenz7A21woG2aFGcrzndoSsskxfmOs&m=EynNfjC0IgQHlcEwCVglqsKtLLlMB2lDR74nAlu2o3U&s=P_7ric4S-qZ_lyZjiGglpAmVqvUdvYaPtTTzYUS8IKo&e=> > Answers to questions: <http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup/>
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