Ed, I guess if it would stop at advertising we would just have to put up with the clutter, what if it involves an opposing political party, a competing company, a vindictive X spouse, the IRS and on it goes…now we have a bigger issue. I’ve just deleted Facebook from the iPhone and will the iPad…leaving it only on the Mac..but my wife’s mobile devices are still connected….bummer.
John > On Apr 29, 2018, at 3:53 PM, Ed Wiser <wisero...@gmail.com> wrote: > > This is our new reality. Companies will spy on you to find out how to > advertise to you. > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Apr 29, 2018, at 3:42 PM, John Robinson <profilecoven...@icloud.com > <mailto:profilecoven...@icloud.com>> wrote: > >> William, >> >> This is the answer, it’s EXACTLY what the girls experienced…so, what do I >> do? I would do away with Facebook immediately but my wife loves to stay in >> touch with her friends.. >> >> I appreciate you sending. >> >> >> John >> >>> On Apr 29, 2018, at 3:17 PM, William Micou <derby...@mac.com >>> <mailto:derby...@mac.com>> wrote: >>> >>> I sent a link separately to a podcast I listen to- ‘Reply All’, that asked >>> if Facebook was using our phone/ computer’s mics to listen. >>> Here it is for this thread: >>> Listen to #109 Is Facebook Spying on You? from Reply All in Podcasts. >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__itunes.apple.com_us_podcast_reply-2Dall_id941907967-3Fmt-3D2-26i-3D1000394325441&d=DwIFaQ&c=OAG1LQNACBDguGvBeNj18Swhr9TMTjS-x4O_KuapPgY&r=F2GFXrjLFqVo3VwvIlo_XYeEiRRjHv15rxcenz7A21woG2aFGcrzndoSsskxfmOs&m=acOTgPnzfkBEKVGq-B3eb0TLPHpZkvT0nRGE8pMYkNA&s=MBJepotnACWxtPcl_9XUZ1ESkvyjjnOT237J95lYw_I&e= >>> >>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__itunes.apple.com_us_podcast_reply-2Dall_id941907967-3Fmt-3D2-26i-3D1000394325441&d=DwMFaQ&c=OAG1LQNACBDguGvBeNj18Swhr9TMTjS-x4O_KuapPgY&r=F2GFXrjLFqVo3VwvIlo_XYeEiRRjHv15rxcenz7A21woG2aFGcrzndoSsskxfmOs&m=g9psw_QT18TKwb_a2-LnBHNlPC-wF9D_kp3PAhgJbbs&s=ZAj6aA0HOV392-yEHzjHWyhEUa_LXjPIj0QvZHbypF0&e=> >>> >>> "It’s the sides of the mountain which sustain life, not the top.” >>> >>> On Apr 29, 2018, at 1:56 PM, John Robinson <profilecoven...@icloud.com >>> <mailto:profilecoven...@icloud.com>> wrote: >>> >>>> I think the only possibility is an App that may have slipped by Apple. >>>> What I think is more plausible is the home is leased throughout the year, >>>> either the gal that owns it has a device that she keeps track of the >>>> tenants & doesn’t want to admit or one of the tenants has installed >>>> something. I’ve sent her all my suggestions including installing a >>>> Fingbox so she can track what’s on her network & be notified when >>>> something had been added. I’m sure there’s an explanation >>>> >>>> John >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On Apr 29, 2018, at 1:41 PM, tom holloman <chuba...@gmail.com >>>> <mailto:chuba...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hopefully you find out it’s not an Apple device listening. >>>>> >>>>> On Apr 28, 2018, at 6:25 PM, John Robinson <profilecoven...@icloud.com >>>>> <mailto:profilecoven...@icloud.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Sounds reasonable Tom…there has to be an explanation. This wasn’t in a >>>>>> hotel, it’s the vacation home of one of the girls. I’m going to write >>>>>> her in the morning attempting to get more info. about the house. I know >>>>>> that many of the smart TV’s can be controlled by outside forces, turning >>>>>> on the camera and I assume the microphones….some folks put tape over the >>>>>> camera to attempt some privacy… >>>>>> >>>>>> These ladies are quite sharp, well educated, tech savvy, the lady that >>>>>> owns the home I put into Mac computer’s years ago, her husband is a >>>>>> Windows guy but she wanted to go Mac so I took a day off and went to her >>>>>> home to instruct her on a few items, she caught on quickly and only >>>>>> contacted me a couple times later, now she is well versed and I never >>>>>> hear from her… >>>>>> >>>>>> I say this only to explain they aren’t the type that can hardly find the >>>>>> on button…while there my daughter rewrote a Real Estate contract, sent >>>>>> to her client for their signature then sent the signed document to the >>>>>> seller’s agent…she also wrote an offer on another piece of property for >>>>>> another client, all on her iPad…. >>>>>> >>>>>> But understanding how their voices could direct advertising is something >>>>>> they want to understand. >>>>>> >>>>>> John >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Apr 28, 2018, at 11:32 PM, tom holloman <chuba...@gmail.com >>>>>>> <mailto:chuba...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is this 1984? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 28, 2018 at 4:50 PM John Robinson <profilecoven...@me.com >>>>>>> <mailto:profilecoven...@me.com>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My daughter and two of her friends went to Hilton Head for a few days. >>>>>>> All three use nothing but Apple Products, there is an Apple TV in the >>>>>>> home, iPads, and three iPhones that belong to each of the ladies. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> One evening they were discussing a product, TV was not on, Apple TV was >>>>>>> not on. None of them had their iPhones on, none of them were using >>>>>>> their phones to do a search for the product. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The next morning all three of the iPhones popped up advertisements for >>>>>>> the product they had ONLY verbally been discussing the evening >>>>>>> before….freaked them out. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So, they tried it again, shutting off everything but leaving the phones >>>>>>> in their purses. They discussed a completely different product…sure >>>>>>> enough all three soon received information on this new subject. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We all know that doing a search for a product will bring scads of >>>>>>> advertisements for the product and competing products.. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But, if there were no searches, only verbal discussions how is this >>>>>>> information being harvested by some devise in the home. I don’t know >>>>>>> if they have an Echo or an Alexa. I suppose if they do then even if >>>>>>> the devise is spying on them how does it know each of their email >>>>>>> addresses? If they had been emailing the night before do these devices >>>>>>> have the ability to skim the packets and obtain their emails? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If they don’t have an Echo or Alexa (and I’ll check) does anyone have >>>>>>> a clue how this could happen? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What if they have an Alarm system, could it be listening and selling >>>>>>> the info. to Amazon and others? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I told them I would ask the group to see what you thought. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks a bunch, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> John >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> MacGroup mailing list >>>>>>> Posting address: MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu >>>>>>> <mailto:MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu> >>>>>>> Archive: >>>>>>> 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