This is our new reality. Companies will spy on you to find out how to advertise to you.
Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 29, 2018, at 3:42 PM, John Robinson <profilecoven...@icloud.com> wrote: > > William, > > This is the answer, it’s EXACTLY what the girls experienced…so, what do I do? > I would do away with Facebook immediately but my wife loves to stay in touch > with her friends.. > > I appreciate you sending. > > > John > >> On Apr 29, 2018, at 3:17 PM, William Micou <derby...@mac.com> wrote: >> >> I sent a link separately to a podcast I listen to- ‘Reply All’, that asked >> if Facebook was using our phone/ computer’s mics to listen. >> Here it is for this thread: >> Listen to #109 Is Facebook Spying on You? from Reply All in Podcasts. >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__itunes.apple.com_us_podcast_reply-2Dall_id941907967-3Fmt-3D2-26i-3D1000394325441&d=DwIFaQ&c=OAG1LQNACBDguGvBeNj18Swhr9TMTjS-x4O_KuapPgY&r=F2GFXrjLFqVo3VwvIlo_XYeEiRRjHv15rxcenz7A21woG2aFGcrzndoSsskxfmOs&m=vjUyzx4-xSHLALWHXWiYLBFBdq7YIJ89Mz7k0GXmxlM&s=5mldv4mB-6Z7delmDS9cGRFIWaxY6N22peOQoOFm3nk&e= >> >> "It’s the sides of the mountain which sustain life, not the top.” >> >>> On Apr 29, 2018, at 1:56 PM, John Robinson <profilecoven...@icloud.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> I think the only possibility is an App that may have slipped by Apple. >>> What I think is more plausible is the home is leased throughout the year, >>> either the gal that owns it has a device that she keeps track of the >>> tenants & doesn’t want to admit or one of the tenants has installed >>> something. I’ve sent her all my suggestions including installing a Fingbox >>> so she can track what’s on her network & be notified when something had >>> been added. I’m sure there’s an explanation >>> >>> John >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Apr 29, 2018, at 1:41 PM, tom holloman <chuba...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hopefully you find out it’s not an Apple device listening. >>>> >>>>> On Apr 28, 2018, at 6:25 PM, John Robinson <profilecoven...@icloud.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Sounds reasonable Tom…there has to be an explanation. This wasn’t in a >>>>> hotel, it’s the vacation home of one of the girls. I’m going to write >>>>> her in the morning attempting to get more info. about the house. I know >>>>> that many of the smart TV’s can be controlled by outside forces, turning >>>>> on the camera and I assume the microphones….some folks put tape over the >>>>> camera to attempt some privacy… >>>>> >>>>> These ladies are quite sharp, well educated, tech savvy, the lady that >>>>> owns the home I put into Mac computer’s years ago, her husband is a >>>>> Windows guy but she wanted to go Mac so I took a day off and went to her >>>>> home to instruct her on a few items, she caught on quickly and only >>>>> contacted me a couple times later, now she is well versed and I never >>>>> hear from her… >>>>> >>>>> I say this only to explain they aren’t the type that can hardly find the >>>>> on button…while there my daughter rewrote a Real Estate contract, sent to >>>>> her client for their signature then sent the signed document to the >>>>> seller’s agent…she also wrote an offer on another piece of property for >>>>> another client, all on her iPad…. >>>>> >>>>> But understanding how their voices could direct advertising is something >>>>> they want to understand. >>>>> >>>>> John >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 28, 2018, at 11:32 PM, tom holloman <chuba...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Is this 1984? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Apr 28, 2018 at 4:50 PM John Robinson <profilecoven...@me.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My daughter and two of her friends went to Hilton Head for a few days. >>>>>>> All three use nothing but Apple Products, there is an Apple TV in the >>>>>>> home, iPads, and three iPhones that belong to each of the ladies. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> One evening they were discussing a product, TV was not on, Apple TV was >>>>>>> not on. None of them had their iPhones on, none of them were using >>>>>>> their phones to do a search for the product. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The next morning all three of the iPhones popped up advertisements for >>>>>>> the product they had ONLY verbally been discussing the evening >>>>>>> before….freaked them out. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So, they tried it again, shutting off everything but leaving the phones >>>>>>> in their purses. They discussed a completely different product…sure >>>>>>> enough all three soon received information on this new subject. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We all know that doing a search for a product will bring scads of >>>>>>> advertisements for the product and competing products.. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But, if there were no searches, only verbal discussions how is this >>>>>>> information being harvested by some devise in the home. I don’t know >>>>>>> if they have an Echo or an Alexa. I suppose if they do then even if >>>>>>> the devise is spying on them how does it know each of their email >>>>>>> addresses? If they had been emailing the night before do these devices >>>>>>> have the ability to skim the packets and obtain their emails? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If they don’t have an Echo or Alexa (and I’ll check) does anyone have >>>>>>> a clue how this could happen? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What if they have an Alarm system, could it be listening and selling >>>>>>> the info. to Amazon and others? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I told them I would ask the group to see what you thought. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks a bunch, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> John >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> MacGroup mailing list >>>>>>> Posting address: MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu >>>>>>> Archive: >>>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.mail-2Darchive.com_macgroup-40erdos.math.louisville.edu_&d=DwIFaQ&c=OAG1LQNACBDguGvBeNj18Swhr9TMTjS-x4O_KuapPgY&r=F2GFXrjLFqVo3VwvIlo_XYeEiRRjHv15rxcenz7A21woG2aFGcrzndoSsskxfmOs&m=vjUyzx4-xSHLALWHXWiYLBFBdq7YIJ89Mz7k0GXmxlM&s=aN_2Nh8dcP9NVtHn9FudGd7R7iI9MAaVsTe18_uX5ME&e=> >>>>>>> Answers to questions: <http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup/> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> MacGroup mailing list >>>>>> Posting address: MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu >>>>>> Archive: >>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.mail-2Darchive.com_macgroup-40erdos.math.louisville.edu_&d=DwIFaQ&c=OAG1LQNACBDguGvBeNj18Swhr9TMTjS-x4O_KuapPgY&r=F2GFXrjLFqVo3VwvIlo_XYeEiRRjHv15rxcenz7A21woG2aFGcrzndoSsskxfmOs&m=vjUyzx4-xSHLALWHXWiYLBFBdq7YIJ89Mz7k0GXmxlM&s=aN_2Nh8dcP9NVtHn9FudGd7R7iI9MAaVsTe18_uX5ME&e=> >>>>>> Answers to questions: <http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup/> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> MacGroup mailing list >>>>> Posting address: MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu >>>>> Archive: >>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.mail-2Darchive.com_macgroup-40erdos.math.louisville.edu_&d=DwIFaQ&c=OAG1LQNACBDguGvBeNj18Swhr9TMTjS-x4O_KuapPgY&r=F2GFXrjLFqVo3VwvIlo_XYeEiRRjHv15rxcenz7A21woG2aFGcrzndoSsskxfmOs&m=vjUyzx4-xSHLALWHXWiYLBFBdq7YIJ89Mz7k0GXmxlM&s=aN_2Nh8dcP9NVtHn9FudGd7R7iI9MAaVsTe18_uX5ME&e=> >>>>> Answers to questions: <http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup/> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> MacGroup mailing list >>>> Posting address: MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu >>>> Archive: >>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.mail-2Darchive.com_macgroup-40erdos.math.louisville.edu_&d=DwIFaQ&c=OAG1LQNACBDguGvBeNj18Swhr9TMTjS-x4O_KuapPgY&r=F2GFXrjLFqVo3VwvIlo_XYeEiRRjHv15rxcenz7A21woG2aFGcrzndoSsskxfmOs&m=vjUyzx4-xSHLALWHXWiYLBFBdq7YIJ89Mz7k0GXmxlM&s=aN_2Nh8dcP9NVtHn9FudGd7R7iI9MAaVsTe18_uX5ME&e=> >>>> Answers to questions: <http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup/> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> MacGroup mailing list >>> Posting address: MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu >>> Archive: >>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.mail-2Darchive.com_macgroup-40erdos.math.louisville.edu_&d=DwIFaQ&c=OAG1LQNACBDguGvBeNj18Swhr9TMTjS-x4O_KuapPgY&r=F2GFXrjLFqVo3VwvIlo_XYeEiRRjHv15rxcenz7A21woG2aFGcrzndoSsskxfmOs&m=vjUyzx4-xSHLALWHXWiYLBFBdq7YIJ89Mz7k0GXmxlM&s=aN_2Nh8dcP9NVtHn9FudGd7R7iI9MAaVsTe18_uX5ME&e=> >>> Answers to questions: <http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup/> >> _______________________________________________ >> MacGroup mailing list >> Posting address: MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu >> Archive: >> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.mail-2Darchive.com_macgroup-40erdos.math.louisville.edu_&d=DwIFaQ&c=OAG1LQNACBDguGvBeNj18Swhr9TMTjS-x4O_KuapPgY&r=F2GFXrjLFqVo3VwvIlo_XYeEiRRjHv15rxcenz7A21woG2aFGcrzndoSsskxfmOs&m=vjUyzx4-xSHLALWHXWiYLBFBdq7YIJ89Mz7k0GXmxlM&s=aN_2Nh8dcP9NVtHn9FudGd7R7iI9MAaVsTe18_uX5ME&e=> >> Answers to questions: <http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup/> > > _______________________________________________ > MacGroup mailing list > Posting address: MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu > Archive: > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.mail-2Darchive.com_macgroup-40erdos.math.louisville.edu_&d=DwIFaQ&c=OAG1LQNACBDguGvBeNj18Swhr9TMTjS-x4O_KuapPgY&r=F2GFXrjLFqVo3VwvIlo_XYeEiRRjHv15rxcenz7A21woG2aFGcrzndoSsskxfmOs&m=vjUyzx4-xSHLALWHXWiYLBFBdq7YIJ89Mz7k0GXmxlM&s=aN_2Nh8dcP9NVtHn9FudGd7R7iI9MAaVsTe18_uX5ME&e=> > Answers to questions: <http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup/>
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