On Mar 9, 2011, at 9:47 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:

> On Mar 9, 2011, at 7:56 PM, Bart Silverstrim wrote:
>> Why is the mailing list even including other members? Don't most mailing 
>> lists properly configured strip out the duplication from headers so you're 
>> not sending multiple replies?
> 
> 
> Yes they do. This is the only one of a dozen I'm subscribed to that behaves 
> this way. I likewise have argued the mailing list is improperly configured 
> for the manner in which this list is used. But alas there is only one list 
> member who is particularly bent out of shape about it.
> 


You still do not get it Chris.  This has nothing to do with the listserve and 
how it is configured.   This has to do with emails straight  between two 
parties, that you insist on sending twice to the same person because you are 
too lazy to use email appropriately and trim out addresses so that the same 
person is not in the list twice, which happens due to the way Apple Mail 
handles REPLY ALL when there is a REPLY-TO header set (which might be 
considered a bug on Apple Mail part, debatable of course, but since you want to 
use Apple Mail you need to work around its limitations).

There is a reason the list is configured the way it is, btw.  You may not agree 
with it (and I tend to agree with you).  However, the list was set up to reply 
to the post sender, and not to the list, by default, so that you would have to 
THINK about what you were posting and whether an answer was appropriate for the 
poster only or for the whole list to see.   If you wanted the WHOLE LIST to see 
your answer to a list post, they purposefully made it so that you had to type 
the list name in to the TO or CC field manually.   This was done on purpose 
this way to try and keep crap me-to posts and similar off the list.    The 
problem is that too many people just hit REPLY ALL without realizing what that 
does and send crap posts directly to too many other people who were 
participating in the discussion, directly.  Bypassing the list.  They do this 
without looking at who  they are sending to and trimming appropriately.   Which 
is the problem you have.

When Bart posted his question, I replied to him directly, and not on the list, 
as it was not germane to the list.  Of course, you just hit REPLY ALL and 
blasted your answer to the list even when not appropriate, plus directly to 
Bart.   Think about it.

I purposefully posted this to you and the list (but manually cut Bart out) 
since I figured it would be good to explain why the list is set up the way it 
is.  It is good information for people to know.  And how to appropriately deal 
with the list and make replies -- which is not to just REPLY ALL without 
trimming.

Chad

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