On Mar 10, 2011, at 10:40 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: > > On Mar 10, 2011, at 8:51 AM, Bart Silverstrim wrote: > >> On 03/10/2011 10:32 AM, objectwerks inc wrote: >>> >>> You still do not get it Chris. This has nothing to do with the >>> listserve and how it is configured. >> >> Actually, it kinda' is. Something in the headers, when I hit reply, only >> goes to the sender, not the list. When I hit reply all, it goes to the list >> and anyone else in the headers. > >> This is the only list I've been on that I recall this happening. > > Well as it turns out other lists are using Reply-To and stomping on author's > (those who use it) Reply-To's. So they are using Reply-To as a hack work > around for email clients that don't honor List-Post. I understand the hack > work around and actually prefer it, but the *right* thing to do is for Apple > Mail to honor List-Post.
List-Post is an informational header. This is perfectly described in the link you posted earlier http://woozle.org/~neale/papers/reply-to-still-harmful.html It is an informational header so that you, the user, knows how the list is organized. It is not a mail header that is to be auto used to reply to lists. That is something a mail client can choose to do but is not required and the RFC says nothing about. > > While I'd prefer Omni change the listserve to behave like other listserves, > what they are doing is technically not wrong, it's actually conforming to RFC. Which you don't seem to understand. > >> If the community is generally screwing it up or finds it irritating, the >> behavior of the list should probably be modified. Isn't that a fairly simple >> rule of software usability? > > Yes except in this case our complaint is with email clients primarily. The > email client should honor List-Post. List-Post is not a header that the email client needs to worry about. Your misread the RFC. It is an informational header to the mail reader (the person) so that they know how to send (post) to the list. > If that is set to No, then it would work as "Reply" presently behaviors, > which is the reply is populated with the Reply-To: (which should be the > author of the email, not the list), and if Reply-To is not set, then > populated with From:. If List-Post is an address, then Reply should default > to the address in my opinion, however the email client could make the > behavior configurable, they could even have a "Reply List" button for only > those emails that contain List-Post. I'd prefer Reply mean Reply List anytime > List-Post is used. > > So while I'd rather the email apps work correctly with respect to List-Post. > The munging of Reply-To is a long standing and effective way of dealing with > (apparently) craptastic behavior on the part of email clients. > > Chris Murphy_______________________________________________ > MacOSX-admin mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin _______________________________________________ MacOSX-admin mailing list [email protected] http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-admin
