On Mar 10, 2011, at 8:51 AM, Bart Silverstrim wrote:

> On 03/10/2011 10:32 AM, objectwerks inc wrote:
>> 
>> You still do not get it Chris.  This has nothing to do with the
>> listserve and how it is configured.
> 
> Actually, it kinda' is. Something in the headers, when I hit reply, only goes 
> to the sender, not the list. When I hit reply all, it goes to the list and 
> anyone else in the headers.

> This is the only list I've been on that I recall this happening.

Well as it turns out other lists are using Reply-To and stomping on author's 
(those who use it) Reply-To's. So they are using Reply-To as a hack work around 
for email clients that don't honor List-Post. I understand the hack work around 
and actually prefer it, but the *right* thing to do is for Apple Mail to honor 
List-Post. 

While I'd prefer Omni change the listserve to behave like other listserves, 
what they are doing is technically not wrong, it's actually conforming to RFC.

> If the community is generally screwing it up or finds it irritating, the 
> behavior of the list should probably be modified. Isn't that a fairly simple 
> rule of software usability?

Yes except in this case our complaint is with email clients primarily. The 
email client should honor List-Post. If that is set to No, then it would work 
as "Reply" presently behaviors, which is the reply is populated with the 
Reply-To: (which should be the author of the email, not the list), and if 
Reply-To is not set, then populated with From:. If List-Post is an address, 
then Reply should default to the address in my opinion, however the email 
client could make the behavior configurable, they could even have a "Reply 
List" button for only those emails that contain List-Post. I'd prefer Reply 
mean Reply List anytime List-Post is used.

So while I'd rather the email apps work correctly with respect to List-Post. 
The munging of Reply-To is a long standing and effective way of dealing with 
(apparently) craptastic behavior on the part of email clients.

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