Linux has the same issue if users choose to use the Acrobat Reader and I think at the moment, Adobe's product is the only accessible PDF reader. Although i think efforts are being made to make more of the open source PDF readers accessible.
TC james On 31 Jan 2010, at 13:56, Jess wrote: > I find it absolutely shady that Adobe still insists that people download and > use their stuff. To bad Windows doesn't run things in a sandbox, like the mac > does. That way, users would be aware, oh my gosh, adobe is trying to install > something else on my pc, let me just click this button that tells this crap > to go away. > I can't tell you how many times the adobe updater has popped up > demanding that I update to the latest revision of Acrobat pdf reader. IF > only there was that glorious little checkbox to not bug me about this > anymore! I always have to click remind me later. And what does it do? It > takes my request, files it away, and reminds me the next time I open it up > and try to read a pdf file. > Shady company indeed. > > On Jan 30, 2010, at 9:19 AM, Bryan Smart wrote: > >> And it blows my mind how they've been able to get everyone to conform. I >> just don't get it at all. I mean, for most people, they need Acrobat Reader >> in order to read PDF documents on a PC. Acrobat Reader has been treated by >> Adobe, not so much as a way to make the documents that their professional >> tools produce to be read for free, but as a vector to get as much of their >> stuff as possible on to your PC. You want to read PDF files? Well, of course >> that means that you'd also like us to install plug ins for everything from >> ebook management to real-time spell checking of PDFs. Also, just in case you >> need it, how about we install stuff to help you produce PDFs through >> adobe.com? And since all of this stuff that we just added, that you didn't >> ask for, is always having security problems, how about we install this >> updater software that will run in the background and constantly nag you to >> update all of the bits that you didn't request in the first place. And, hey, >> while we're updating, how about we install some other stuff that you didn't >> request and don't want. I don't know how IT departments haven't banned >> Acrobat Reader as a security risk. It seems that way to me. >> >> And, when it comes down to its core function, you know, reading PDF files, >> Acrobat Reader is horribly slow at that task. I used to think that PDFs must >> be this big bloated document format, but I've realized in the past few years >> that PDFs aren't the problem, the problem is Acrobat Reader. Other PDF >> reading tools are quite snappy. Its unfortunate for Windows users that >> Acrobat Reader is the only reading tool that is both accessible, and is >> blessed by Adobe with access to encrypted/secured PDF files. I know there >> are converters and other accessible readers, but those won't work if the >> file is secured or encrypted. >> >> Adobe reminds me of Real Networks. Do any of you remember Real Player? >> That's how we used to stream audio and video before Flash. Of course, hardly >> anyone uses the Real Player formats or player any longer. The big reason for >> that is they took the fact that so many people installed their software as >> an opportunity to bundle all sorts of crapware with it. I suppose Adobe is >> better, since they aren't including Google and Yahoo toolbars, 50 free MP3s >> from EMusic.com, Weather Bug, a free trial of Mcafee Security Suite, and $10 >> off at Amazon.com on your next purchase of $30 or more, but they're still >> including lots of unnecessary and bloated extras that run slowly and are >> infested with security problems. >> >> And people continue to use their stuff why? They seem like a shady company, >> far from professional, and their practices say to me that they don't respect >> or value their customers. >> >> Bryan >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Hofstader >> Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 8:05 AM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: apple and adobe zeitgeist fallout >> >> For years, Adobe's behavior has been a paradox wrapped in an enigma and >> coded with deep encryption. >> On Jan 30, 2010, at 7:52 AM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote: >> >>> Yes you are right, some of apple's stuff is also still carbon, but i >>> remember somewhere saying adobe didn't want to jump the coco bandwagon. Why >>> is what i am looking for. >>> >>> best >>> >>> Yuma >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
