Bryan: Well said, and I agree. What are peope using on the mac to read PDF doccuments? Carolyn ch:)) On Jan 30, 2010, at 7:19 AM, Bryan Smart wrote:
> And it blows my mind how they've been able to get everyone to conform. I just > don't get it at all. I mean, for most people, they need Acrobat Reader in > order to read PDF documents on a PC. Acrobat Reader has been treated by > Adobe, not so much as a way to make the documents that their professional > tools produce to be read for free, but as a vector to get as much of their > stuff as possible on to your PC. You want to read PDF files? Well, of course > that means that you'd also like us to install plug ins for everything from > ebook management to real-time spell checking of PDFs. Also, just in case you > need it, how about we install stuff to help you produce PDFs through > adobe.com? And since all of this stuff that we just added, that you didn't > ask for, is always having security problems, how about we install this > updater software that will run in the background and constantly nag you to > update all of the bits that you didn't request in the first place. And, hey, > while we're updating, how about we install some other stuff that you didn't > request and don't want. I don't know how IT departments haven't banned > Acrobat Reader as a security risk. It seems that way to me. > > And, when it comes down to its core function, you know, reading PDF files, > Acrobat Reader is horribly slow at that task. I used to think that PDFs must > be this big bloated document format, but I've realized in the past few years > that PDFs aren't the problem, the problem is Acrobat Reader. Other PDF > reading tools are quite snappy. Its unfortunate for Windows users that > Acrobat Reader is the only reading tool that is both accessible, and is > blessed by Adobe with access to encrypted/secured PDF files. I know there are > converters and other accessible readers, but those won't work if the file is > secured or encrypted. > > Adobe reminds me of Real Networks. Do any of you remember Real Player? That's > how we used to stream audio and video before Flash. Of course, hardly anyone > uses the Real Player formats or player any longer. The big reason for that is > they took the fact that so many people installed their software as an > opportunity to bundle all sorts of crapware with it. I suppose Adobe is > better, since they aren't including Google and Yahoo toolbars, 50 free MP3s > from EMusic.com, Weather Bug, a free trial of Mcafee Security Suite, and $10 > off at Amazon.com on your next purchase of $30 or more, but they're still > including lots of unnecessary and bloated extras that run slowly and are > infested with security problems. > > And people continue to use their stuff why? They seem like a shady company, > far from professional, and their practices say to me that they don't respect > or value their customers. > > Bryan > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Hofstader > Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 8:05 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: apple and adobe zeitgeist fallout > > For years, Adobe's behavior has been a paradox wrapped in an enigma and coded > with deep encryption. > On Jan 30, 2010, at 7:52 AM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote: > >> Yes you are right, some of apple's stuff is also still carbon, but i >> remember somewhere saying adobe didn't want to jump the coco bandwagon. Why >> is what i am looking for. >> >> best >> >> Yuma >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
