Hi.
I can't just up and down arrow in order to find stuff to start selecting and 
even if I do ad shift to that to select line by line, there is no selecting 
going on.
A silly question. Are you using Lion or SnowLeopard?
I'm using Lion.

On 2012-01-17, at 2:14 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:

> I guess I'm not following what you're looking for. I did a VO-command-h to 
> jump to the heading and the VO-right a couple times to find the paragraph. 
> Then I just shift-downarrow six times to select all the text. I could have 
> continued down arrowing to pick up more stuff on the page, stuff I had not 
> even interacted with. I'm not sure where the "interact[ing] with each element 
> on a webpage" part comes in. I had to interact enough to find my starting 
> point but that was about it. What is your expectation?
> 
> CB
> 
> On 1/17/12 1:20 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
>> Hi.
>> This still only works if you interact with each element on a webpage even 
>> with all of the cursors tracking each other.
>> I'd be reporting this to Apple Accessibility. I know I already did several 
>> times. Maybe if they see enough requests, they'll add it.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 2012-01-17, at 12:34 PM, Bill Holton wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks.  As mentioned, I figured problem was between keyboard and chair.  I
>>> thought I had the tracking set right.  Let me try later today and see if I
>>> can duplicate.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected]
>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 12:28 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: Selecting text in Safari
>>> 
>>> I was able to do this on your test page just fine. Main thing was to be
>>> sure cursor tracking was turned on with control-option-shift-F3. I then
>>> went to your page:
>>> 
>>> http://winit.womansworldmag.com/enter/drawing/4a606b5463a666f91cfc0aa8a80e30
>>> 5f0828351b
>>> 
>>> and found the text starting with "Pandora's Charm...". From there I then
>>> just did a dhift-down arrow until I selected the whole paragraph,
>>> including the link. Then I hit command-c to copy and was able to go to
>>> another app and paste it all. Until I turned on cursor tracking I wasn't
>>> able to make it go. Used this Apple help page which described the
>>> process and different ways to select the text:
>>> 
>>> http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=VoiceOver/1.0/en/mh2089.html
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
>>> On 1/17/12 8:34 AM, Bill Holton wrote:
>>>> The bits are larger than one phrase or bit.  Unles there's a command to
>>> add
>>>> to clipboard instead of replacing it?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 5:14 AM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: Selecting text in Safari
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> If all your doing is copying bits and pieces like that, why not do VO
>>> shift
>>>> C which is copy last phrase to clipboard.
>>>> 
>>>> Ricardo Walker
>>>> [email protected]
>>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>>>> www.appletothecore.info
>>>> 
>>>> On Jan 16, 2012, at 4:24 PM, Bill Holton wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Looks like this makes the Mac almost a no go for my work.  I spend a lot
>>>> of time grabbing addresses and other contact info online and copying it
>>> into
>>>> documents.
>>>>> I am in DOM mode.  If I interact with the text the VO Enter works, but
>>> all
>>>> it will copy is the current element, word, link, etc.  If I try to press
>>> VO
>>>> Enter anywhere else I get a beep and nothing.
>>>>> Copying the entire page and editing would be about 5 times more work than
>>>> I can accomplish the same tasks with Windows.  There really should be a
>>> way
>>>> to grab a few lines, elements, etc. from a web page and copy just them.
>>>>> I actually thought that's what VO enter was for, but apparently it won't
>>>> help me at all.
>>>>> Maybe there is something else I am missing?
>>>>> Bill
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson
>>>>> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 4:04 PM
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Subject: Re: Selecting text in Safari
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello Bill,
>>>>> 
>>>>> This all seems to depend on the website. Selecting would appear to work
>>>> better in DOM mode than in Groups.
>>>>> If Shift-Cmd-Right arrow doesn't highlight a chunk of text for you,
>>>> remember that VO-Shift-c will copy the last spoken phrase to the
>>> clipboard.
>>>>> Also, you may find you need to interact with the text to be able to
>>>> highlight it.
>>>>> Failing that, Cmd-a will highlight the whole page, which you can then
>>> copy
>>>> into a TextEdit document and edit from there.
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Anne
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 16 Jan 2012, at 20:17, Bill Holton wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi.
>>>>> As I understand it, there are a few ways to select text in Safari.  To
>>> get
>>>> a letter, word or line you hold down the shift key and then press arrow
>>> for
>>>> character, option arrow for word and command arrow for the rest of the
>>> line.
>>>>> To select a larger selection, you press VO enter and then move to the end
>>>> of your selection and press VO Enter again.
>>>>> My problem is, neither of these seem to be working.  I have cursor
>>>> tracking turned on and I have tried both with quick Nav turned on and off.
>>>> I'm sure the problem is between my chair and keyboard, but not sure what
>>> to
>>>> do different.  Any suggestions appreciated.
>>>>> Bill
>>>>> 
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