OK, in Lion I just exitedSafari and then went back in. I tried to shift cursor down as my very first keystroke and it didn't work. Then I turned on quick nav and again it didn't work. I then pressed the right arrow key and then the left arrow key. Tried again, this time it worked. After that it continued to work until I closed Safari again and reopened it, at which time the same sequence.
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Matthew Campbell Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 4:25 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Selecting text in Safari Hi. All tracking is turned on. It's really flaky it seems when you can and can't select stuff off webpages. On 2012-01-17, at 4:00 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: > Ahh, I'm no Snow Leopard on this machine. Someday I'll get with all the cool kids and upgrade. Just haven't got around to it yet. Maybe that's the difference. > > Ok, found another machine with Lion on it and pretty much the same thing. Once I had cursor tracking on I did VO-H to jump to the header, then VO-right a couple times to get to the paragraph, the plain old shift+downarrow to start selecting the lines of text. I don't have quick-nav turned on so my arrows are free for doing this. Hmmm. Just tried it again with quick-nav on and it worked there as well. Maybe there is some other setting I have turned on? You verified that you have cursor tracking turned on? Otherwise I'm stumped. > > CB > > On 1/17/12 3:23 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote: >> Hi. >> I can't just up and down arrow in order to find stuff to start selecting and even if I do ad shift to that to select line by line, there is no selecting going on. >> A silly question. Are you using Lion or SnowLeopard? >> I'm using Lion. >> >> On 2012-01-17, at 2:14 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: >> >>> I guess I'm not following what you're looking for. I did a VO-command-h to jump to the heading and the VO-right a couple times to find the paragraph. Then I just shift-downarrow six times to select all the text. I could have continued down arrowing to pick up more stuff on the page, stuff I had not even interacted with. I'm not sure where the "interact[ing] with each element on a webpage" part comes in. I had to interact enough to find my starting point but that was about it. What is your expectation? >>> >>> CB >>> >>> On 1/17/12 1:20 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote: >>>> Hi. >>>> This still only works if you interact with each element on a webpage even with all of the cursors tracking each other. >>>> I'd be reporting this to Apple Accessibility. I know I already did several times. Maybe if they see enough requests, they'll add it. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2012-01-17, at 12:34 PM, Bill Holton wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks. As mentioned, I figured problem was between keyboard and chair. I >>>>> thought I had the tracking set right. Let me try later today and see if I >>>>> can duplicate. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 12:28 PM >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Subject: Re: Selecting text in Safari >>>>> >>>>> I was able to do this on your test page just fine. Main thing was to be >>>>> sure cursor tracking was turned on with control-option-shift-F3. I then >>>>> went to your page: >>>>> >>>>> http://winit.womansworldmag.com/enter/drawing/4a606b5463a666f91cfc0aa8a80e30 >>>>> 5f0828351b >>>>> >>>>> and found the text starting with "Pandora's Charm...". From there I then >>>>> just did a dhift-down arrow until I selected the whole paragraph, >>>>> including the link. Then I hit command-c to copy and was able to go to >>>>> another app and paste it all. Until I turned on cursor tracking I wasn't >>>>> able to make it go. Used this Apple help page which described the >>>>> process and different ways to select the text: >>>>> >>>>> http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=VoiceOver/1.0/en/mh2089.html >>>>> >>>>> CB >>>>> >>>>> On 1/17/12 8:34 AM, Bill Holton wrote: >>>>>> The bits are larger than one phrase or bit. Unles there's a command to >>>>> add >>>>>> to clipboard instead of replacing it? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 5:14 AM >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Subject: Re: Selecting text in Safari >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> If all your doing is copying bits and pieces like that, why not do VO >>>>> shift >>>>>> C which is copy last phrase to clipboard. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ricardo Walker >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>>>>> www.appletothecore.info >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 16, 2012, at 4:24 PM, Bill Holton wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Looks like this makes the Mac almost a no go for my work. I spend a lot >>>>>> of time grabbing addresses and other contact info online and copying it >>>>> into >>>>>> documents. >>>>>>> I am in DOM mode. If I interact with the text the VO Enter works, but >>>>> all >>>>>> it will copy is the current element, word, link, etc. If I try to press >>>>> VO >>>>>> Enter anywhere else I get a beep and nothing. >>>>>>> Copying the entire page and editing would be about 5 times more work than >>>>>> I can accomplish the same tasks with Windows. There really should be a >>>>> way >>>>>> to grab a few lines, elements, etc. from a web page and copy just them. >>>>>>> I actually thought that's what VO enter was for, but apparently it won't >>>>>> help me at all. >>>>>>> Maybe there is something else I am missing? >>>>>>> Bill >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 4:04 PM >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Selecting text in Safari >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello Bill, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This all seems to depend on the website. Selecting would appear to work >>>>>> better in DOM mode than in Groups. >>>>>>> If Shift-Cmd-Right arrow doesn't highlight a chunk of text for you, >>>>>> remember that VO-Shift-c will copy the last spoken phrase to the >>>>> clipboard. >>>>>>> Also, you may find you need to interact with the text to be able to >>>>>> highlight it. >>>>>>> Failing that, Cmd-a will highlight the whole page, which you can then >>>>> copy >>>>>> into a TextEdit document and edit from there. >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Anne >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 16 Jan 2012, at 20:17, Bill Holton wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi. >>>>>>> As I understand it, there are a few ways to select text in Safari. To >>>>> get >>>>>> a letter, word or line you hold down the shift key and then press arrow >>>>> for >>>>>> character, option arrow for word and command arrow for the rest of the >>>>> line. >>>>>>> To select a larger selection, you press VO enter and then move to the end >>>>>> of your selection and press VO Enter again. >>>>>>> My problem is, neither of these seem to be working. I have cursor >>>>>> tracking turned on and I have tried both with quick Nav turned on and off. >>>>>> I'm sure the problem is between my chair and keyboard, but not sure what >>>>> to >>>>>> do different. 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