Hi Ricardo, this works great with safari and turbo web, thx for the workaround that is quite simple.
What I find so strange about this: if you ask accessibility , they give no hints unless you have the hint from them? Tomorrow, a sighted mac programmer is here: I will ask him why this should not work in chrome... Best regards, William Op 26-jan.-2012, om 20:50 heeft Ricardo Walker het volgende geschreven: > Hi, > > you should check out episode 4 of apple to the core. I go over a way to > select text on the web. You can find the podcast at the site following my > name at the end of this message. > > hth > > Ricardo Walker > [email protected] > Twitter:@apple2thecore > www.appletothecore.info > > On Jan 26, 2012, at 4:37 AM, William Windels wrote: > >> Hello Matthew and others, >> I still have problems selecting text on internet with google chrome or >> safari ( I think chrome is the same lay-out as safari since the html-lay-out >> is controlled by voiceover). >> I have tried: >> with cursor tracking on/off >> with quick nav on/off >> in line-mode (with quicknav on), I can't navigate by line until there is a >> link in the text. >> I was also thinking about vo+shift+s in combination with reading parragraphs >> or other reading commands... >> The command to read paragraphs control+option+p seems not to work on a >> website... so , this is not a way to copy a paragraph. >> About the website that was given with selection-tips in vo-1.0: there seems >> nothing relevant to me about more flexibility to select text in html-areas. >> >> Pls again, some help should be appreciated. >> >> kind regards, >> William Windels >> >> Op 17-jan.-2012, om 22:25 heeft Matthew Campbell het volgende geschreven: >> >>> Hi. >>> All tracking is turned on. >>> It's really flaky it seems when you can and can't select stuff off webpages. >>> >>> On 2012-01-17, at 4:00 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: >>> >>>> Ahh, I'm no Snow Leopard on this machine. Someday I'll get with all the >>>> cool kids and upgrade. Just haven't got around to it yet. Maybe that's the >>>> difference. >>>> >>>> Ok, found another machine with Lion on it and pretty much the same thing. >>>> Once I had cursor tracking on I did VO-H to jump to the header, then >>>> VO-right a couple times to get to the paragraph, the plain old >>>> shift+downarrow to start selecting the lines of text. I don't have >>>> quick-nav turned on so my arrows are free for doing this. Hmmm. Just tried >>>> it again with quick-nav on and it worked there as well. Maybe there is >>>> some other setting I have turned on? You verified that you have cursor >>>> tracking turned on? Otherwise I'm stumped. >>>> >>>> CB >>>> >>>> On 1/17/12 3:23 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote: >>>>> Hi. >>>>> I can't just up and down arrow in order to find stuff to start selecting >>>>> and even if I do ad shift to that to select line by line, there is no >>>>> selecting going on. >>>>> A silly question. Are you using Lion or SnowLeopard? >>>>> I'm using Lion. >>>>> >>>>> On 2012-01-17, at 2:14 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I guess I'm not following what you're looking for. I did a VO-command-h >>>>>> to jump to the heading and the VO-right a couple times to find the >>>>>> paragraph. Then I just shift-downarrow six times to select all the text. >>>>>> I could have continued down arrowing to pick up more stuff on the page, >>>>>> stuff I had not even interacted with. I'm not sure where the >>>>>> "interact[ing] with each element on a webpage" part comes in. I had to >>>>>> interact enough to find my starting point but that was about it. What is >>>>>> your expectation? >>>>>> >>>>>> CB >>>>>> >>>>>> On 1/17/12 1:20 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote: >>>>>>> Hi. >>>>>>> This still only works if you interact with each element on a webpage >>>>>>> even with all of the cursors tracking each other. >>>>>>> I'd be reporting this to Apple Accessibility. I know I already did >>>>>>> several times. Maybe if they see enough requests, they'll add it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2012-01-17, at 12:34 PM, Bill Holton wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks. As mentioned, I figured problem was between keyboard and >>>>>>>> chair. I >>>>>>>> thought I had the tracking set right. Let me try later today and see >>>>>>>> if I >>>>>>>> can duplicate. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch >>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 12:28 PM >>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Selecting text in Safari >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I was able to do this on your test page just fine. Main thing was to be >>>>>>>> sure cursor tracking was turned on with control-option-shift-F3. I then >>>>>>>> went to your page: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://winit.womansworldmag.com/enter/drawing/4a606b5463a666f91cfc0aa8a80e30 >>>>>>>> 5f0828351b >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> and found the text starting with "Pandora's Charm...". From there I >>>>>>>> then >>>>>>>> just did a dhift-down arrow until I selected the whole paragraph, >>>>>>>> including the link. Then I hit command-c to copy and was able to go to >>>>>>>> another app and paste it all. Until I turned on cursor tracking I >>>>>>>> wasn't >>>>>>>> able to make it go. Used this Apple help page which described the >>>>>>>> process and different ways to select the text: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=VoiceOver/1.0/en/mh2089.html >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> CB >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 1/17/12 8:34 AM, Bill Holton wrote: >>>>>>>>> The bits are larger than one phrase or bit. Unles there's a command >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> add >>>>>>>>> to clipboard instead of replacing it? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker >>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 5:14 AM >>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Selecting text in Safari >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If all your doing is copying bits and pieces like that, why not do VO >>>>>>>> shift >>>>>>>>> C which is copy last phrase to clipboard. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ricardo Walker >>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>>>>>>>> www.appletothecore.info >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Jan 16, 2012, at 4:24 PM, Bill Holton wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Looks like this makes the Mac almost a no go for my work. I spend a >>>>>>>>>> lot >>>>>>>>> of time grabbing addresses and other contact info online and copying >>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>> into >>>>>>>>> documents. >>>>>>>>>> I am in DOM mode. If I interact with the text the VO Enter works, >>>>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>> all >>>>>>>>> it will copy is the current element, word, link, etc. If I try to >>>>>>>>> press >>>>>>>> VO >>>>>>>>> Enter anywhere else I get a beep and nothing. >>>>>>>>>> Copying the entire page and editing would be about 5 times more work >>>>>>>>>> than >>>>>>>>> I can accomplish the same tasks with Windows. There really should be >>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>> way >>>>>>>>> to grab a few lines, elements, etc. from a web page and copy just >>>>>>>>> them. >>>>>>>>>> I actually thought that's what VO enter was for, but apparently it >>>>>>>>>> won't >>>>>>>>> help me at all. >>>>>>>>>> Maybe there is something else I am missing? >>>>>>>>>> Bill >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 4:04 PM >>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Selecting text in Safari >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hello Bill, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> This all seems to depend on the website. Selecting would appear to >>>>>>>>>> work >>>>>>>>> better in DOM mode than in Groups. >>>>>>>>>> If Shift-Cmd-Right arrow doesn't highlight a chunk of text for you, >>>>>>>>> remember that VO-Shift-c will copy the last spoken phrase to the >>>>>>>> clipboard. >>>>>>>>>> Also, you may find you need to interact with the text to be able to >>>>>>>>> highlight it. >>>>>>>>>> Failing that, Cmd-a will highlight the whole page, which you can then >>>>>>>> copy >>>>>>>>> into a TextEdit document and edit from there. >>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Anne >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 16 Jan 2012, at 20:17, Bill Holton wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi. >>>>>>>>>> As I understand it, there are a few ways to select text in Safari. >>>>>>>>>> To >>>>>>>> get >>>>>>>>> a letter, word or line you hold down the shift key and then press >>>>>>>>> arrow >>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>> character, option arrow for word and command arrow for the rest of the >>>>>>>> line. >>>>>>>>>> To select a larger selection, you press VO enter and then move to >>>>>>>>>> the end >>>>>>>>> of your selection and press VO Enter again. >>>>>>>>>> My problem is, neither of these seem to be working. I have cursor >>>>>>>>> tracking turned on and I have tried both with quick Nav turned on and >>>>>>>>> off. >>>>>>>>> I'm sure the problem is between my chair and keyboard, but not sure >>>>>>>>> what >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> do different. 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