Hi, you should check out episode 4 of apple to the core. I go over a way to select text on the web. You can find the podcast at the site following my name at the end of this message.
hth Ricardo Walker [email protected] Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jan 26, 2012, at 4:37 AM, William Windels wrote: > Hello Matthew and others, > I still have problems selecting text on internet with google chrome or safari > ( I think chrome is the same lay-out as safari since the html-lay-out is > controlled by voiceover). > I have tried: > with cursor tracking on/off > with quick nav on/off > in line-mode (with quicknav on), I can't navigate by line until there is a > link in the text. > I was also thinking about vo+shift+s in combination with reading parragraphs > or other reading commands... > The command to read paragraphs control+option+p seems not to work on a > website... so , this is not a way to copy a paragraph. > About the website that was given with selection-tips in vo-1.0: there seems > nothing relevant to me about more flexibility to select text in html-areas. > > Pls again, some help should be appreciated. > > kind regards, > William Windels > > Op 17-jan.-2012, om 22:25 heeft Matthew Campbell het volgende geschreven: > >> Hi. >> All tracking is turned on. >> It's really flaky it seems when you can and can't select stuff off webpages. >> >> On 2012-01-17, at 4:00 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: >> >>> Ahh, I'm no Snow Leopard on this machine. Someday I'll get with all the >>> cool kids and upgrade. Just haven't got around to it yet. Maybe that's the >>> difference. >>> >>> Ok, found another machine with Lion on it and pretty much the same thing. >>> Once I had cursor tracking on I did VO-H to jump to the header, then >>> VO-right a couple times to get to the paragraph, the plain old >>> shift+downarrow to start selecting the lines of text. I don't have >>> quick-nav turned on so my arrows are free for doing this. Hmmm. Just tried >>> it again with quick-nav on and it worked there as well. Maybe there is some >>> other setting I have turned on? You verified that you have cursor tracking >>> turned on? Otherwise I'm stumped. >>> >>> CB >>> >>> On 1/17/12 3:23 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote: >>>> Hi. >>>> I can't just up and down arrow in order to find stuff to start selecting >>>> and even if I do ad shift to that to select line by line, there is no >>>> selecting going on. >>>> A silly question. Are you using Lion or SnowLeopard? >>>> I'm using Lion. >>>> >>>> On 2012-01-17, at 2:14 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: >>>> >>>>> I guess I'm not following what you're looking for. I did a VO-command-h >>>>> to jump to the heading and the VO-right a couple times to find the >>>>> paragraph. Then I just shift-downarrow six times to select all the text. >>>>> I could have continued down arrowing to pick up more stuff on the page, >>>>> stuff I had not even interacted with. I'm not sure where the >>>>> "interact[ing] with each element on a webpage" part comes in. I had to >>>>> interact enough to find my starting point but that was about it. What is >>>>> your expectation? >>>>> >>>>> CB >>>>> >>>>> On 1/17/12 1:20 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote: >>>>>> Hi. >>>>>> This still only works if you interact with each element on a webpage >>>>>> even with all of the cursors tracking each other. >>>>>> I'd be reporting this to Apple Accessibility. I know I already did >>>>>> several times. Maybe if they see enough requests, they'll add it. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2012-01-17, at 12:34 PM, Bill Holton wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks. As mentioned, I figured problem was between keyboard and >>>>>>> chair. I >>>>>>> thought I had the tracking set right. Let me try later today and see >>>>>>> if I >>>>>>> can duplicate. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch >>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 12:28 PM >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Selecting text in Safari >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I was able to do this on your test page just fine. Main thing was to be >>>>>>> sure cursor tracking was turned on with control-option-shift-F3. I then >>>>>>> went to your page: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://winit.womansworldmag.com/enter/drawing/4a606b5463a666f91cfc0aa8a80e30 >>>>>>> 5f0828351b >>>>>>> >>>>>>> and found the text starting with "Pandora's Charm...". From there I then >>>>>>> just did a dhift-down arrow until I selected the whole paragraph, >>>>>>> including the link. Then I hit command-c to copy and was able to go to >>>>>>> another app and paste it all. Until I turned on cursor tracking I wasn't >>>>>>> able to make it go. Used this Apple help page which described the >>>>>>> process and different ways to select the text: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=VoiceOver/1.0/en/mh2089.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> CB >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 1/17/12 8:34 AM, Bill Holton wrote: >>>>>>>> The bits are larger than one phrase or bit. Unles there's a command to >>>>>>> add >>>>>>>> to clipboard instead of replacing it? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker >>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 5:14 AM >>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Selecting text in Safari >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If all your doing is copying bits and pieces like that, why not do VO >>>>>>> shift >>>>>>>> C which is copy last phrase to clipboard. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ricardo Walker >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>>>>>>> www.appletothecore.info >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jan 16, 2012, at 4:24 PM, Bill Holton wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Looks like this makes the Mac almost a no go for my work. I spend a >>>>>>>>> lot >>>>>>>> of time grabbing addresses and other contact info online and copying it >>>>>>> into >>>>>>>> documents. >>>>>>>>> I am in DOM mode. If I interact with the text the VO Enter works, but >>>>>>> all >>>>>>>> it will copy is the current element, word, link, etc. If I try to >>>>>>>> press >>>>>>> VO >>>>>>>> Enter anywhere else I get a beep and nothing. >>>>>>>>> Copying the entire page and editing would be about 5 times more work >>>>>>>>> than >>>>>>>> I can accomplish the same tasks with Windows. There really should be a >>>>>>> way >>>>>>>> to grab a few lines, elements, etc. from a web page and copy just them. >>>>>>>>> I actually thought that's what VO enter was for, but apparently it >>>>>>>>> won't >>>>>>>> help me at all. >>>>>>>>> Maybe there is something else I am missing? >>>>>>>>> Bill >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson >>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 4:04 PM >>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Selecting text in Safari >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hello Bill, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This all seems to depend on the website. Selecting would appear to >>>>>>>>> work >>>>>>>> better in DOM mode than in Groups. >>>>>>>>> If Shift-Cmd-Right arrow doesn't highlight a chunk of text for you, >>>>>>>> remember that VO-Shift-c will copy the last spoken phrase to the >>>>>>> clipboard. >>>>>>>>> Also, you may find you need to interact with the text to be able to >>>>>>>> highlight it. >>>>>>>>> Failing that, Cmd-a will highlight the whole page, which you can then >>>>>>> copy >>>>>>>> into a TextEdit document and edit from there. >>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Anne >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 16 Jan 2012, at 20:17, Bill Holton wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi. >>>>>>>>> As I understand it, there are a few ways to select text in Safari. To >>>>>>> get >>>>>>>> a letter, word or line you hold down the shift key and then press arrow >>>>>>> for >>>>>>>> character, option arrow for word and command arrow for the rest of the >>>>>>> line. >>>>>>>>> To select a larger selection, you press VO enter and then move to the >>>>>>>>> end >>>>>>>> of your selection and press VO Enter again. >>>>>>>>> My problem is, neither of these seem to be working. I have cursor >>>>>>>> tracking turned on and I have tried both with quick Nav turned on and >>>>>>>> off. >>>>>>>> I'm sure the problem is between my chair and keyboard, but not sure >>>>>>>> what >>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> do different. 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