Interesting, So the work around doesn't work in chrome? I must admit, I haven't yet had a reason to select text in chrome. I figured it would have worked.
Ricardo Walker [email protected] Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jan 26, 2012, at 4:49 PM, William Windels wrote: > Hi Ricardo, this works great with safari and turbo web, thx for the > workaround that is quite simple. > > What I find so strange about this: if you ask accessibility , they give no > hints unless you have the hint from them? > > Tomorrow, a sighted mac programmer is here: I will ask him why this should > not work in chrome... > > Best regards, > William > Op 26-jan.-2012, om 20:50 heeft Ricardo Walker het volgende geschreven: > >> Hi, >> >> you should check out episode 4 of apple to the core. I go over a way to >> select text on the web. You can find the podcast at the site following my >> name at the end of this message. >> >> hth >> >> Ricardo Walker >> [email protected] >> Twitter:@apple2thecore >> www.appletothecore.info >> >> On Jan 26, 2012, at 4:37 AM, William Windels wrote: >> >>> Hello Matthew and others, >>> I still have problems selecting text on internet with google chrome or >>> safari ( I think chrome is the same lay-out as safari since the >>> html-lay-out is controlled by voiceover). >>> I have tried: >>> with cursor tracking on/off >>> with quick nav on/off >>> in line-mode (with quicknav on), I can't navigate by line until there is a >>> link in the text. >>> I was also thinking about vo+shift+s in combination with reading >>> parragraphs or other reading commands... >>> The command to read paragraphs control+option+p seems not to work on a >>> website... so , this is not a way to copy a paragraph. >>> About the website that was given with selection-tips in vo-1.0: there seems >>> nothing relevant to me about more flexibility to select text in html-areas. >>> >>> Pls again, some help should be appreciated. >>> >>> kind regards, >>> William Windels >>> >>> Op 17-jan.-2012, om 22:25 heeft Matthew Campbell het volgende geschreven: >>> >>>> Hi. >>>> All tracking is turned on. >>>> It's really flaky it seems when you can and can't select stuff off >>>> webpages. >>>> >>>> On 2012-01-17, at 4:00 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: >>>> >>>>> Ahh, I'm no Snow Leopard on this machine. Someday I'll get with all the >>>>> cool kids and upgrade. Just haven't got around to it yet. Maybe that's >>>>> the difference. >>>>> >>>>> Ok, found another machine with Lion on it and pretty much the same thing. >>>>> Once I had cursor tracking on I did VO-H to jump to the header, then >>>>> VO-right a couple times to get to the paragraph, the plain old >>>>> shift+downarrow to start selecting the lines of text. I don't have >>>>> quick-nav turned on so my arrows are free for doing this. Hmmm. Just >>>>> tried it again with quick-nav on and it worked there as well. Maybe there >>>>> is some other setting I have turned on? You verified that you have cursor >>>>> tracking turned on? Otherwise I'm stumped. >>>>> >>>>> CB >>>>> >>>>> On 1/17/12 3:23 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote: >>>>>> Hi. >>>>>> I can't just up and down arrow in order to find stuff to start selecting >>>>>> and even if I do ad shift to that to select line by line, there is no >>>>>> selecting going on. >>>>>> A silly question. Are you using Lion or SnowLeopard? >>>>>> I'm using Lion. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2012-01-17, at 2:14 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I guess I'm not following what you're looking for. I did a VO-command-h >>>>>>> to jump to the heading and the VO-right a couple times to find the >>>>>>> paragraph. Then I just shift-downarrow six times to select all the >>>>>>> text. I could have continued down arrowing to pick up more stuff on the >>>>>>> page, stuff I had not even interacted with. I'm not sure where the >>>>>>> "interact[ing] with each element on a webpage" part comes in. I had to >>>>>>> interact enough to find my starting point but that was about it. What >>>>>>> is your expectation? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> CB >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 1/17/12 1:20 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote: >>>>>>>> Hi. >>>>>>>> This still only works if you interact with each element on a webpage >>>>>>>> even with all of the cursors tracking each other. >>>>>>>> I'd be reporting this to Apple Accessibility. I know I already did >>>>>>>> several times. Maybe if they see enough requests, they'll add it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 2012-01-17, at 12:34 PM, Bill Holton wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks. As mentioned, I figured problem was between keyboard and >>>>>>>>> chair. I >>>>>>>>> thought I had the tracking set right. Let me try later today and see >>>>>>>>> if I >>>>>>>>> can duplicate. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch >>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 12:28 PM >>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Selecting text in Safari >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I was able to do this on your test page just fine. Main thing was to >>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>> sure cursor tracking was turned on with control-option-shift-F3. I >>>>>>>>> then >>>>>>>>> went to your page: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://winit.womansworldmag.com/enter/drawing/4a606b5463a666f91cfc0aa8a80e30 >>>>>>>>> 5f0828351b >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> and found the text starting with "Pandora's Charm...". From there I >>>>>>>>> then >>>>>>>>> just did a dhift-down arrow until I selected the whole paragraph, >>>>>>>>> including the link. Then I hit command-c to copy and was able to go to >>>>>>>>> another app and paste it all. Until I turned on cursor tracking I >>>>>>>>> wasn't >>>>>>>>> able to make it go. Used this Apple help page which described the >>>>>>>>> process and different ways to select the text: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=VoiceOver/1.0/en/mh2089.html >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> CB >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 1/17/12 8:34 AM, Bill Holton wrote: >>>>>>>>>> The bits are larger than one phrase or bit. Unles there's a command >>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> add >>>>>>>>>> to clipboard instead of replacing it? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 5:14 AM >>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Selecting text in Safari >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If all your doing is copying bits and pieces like that, why not do VO >>>>>>>>> shift >>>>>>>>>> C which is copy last phrase to clipboard. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Ricardo Walker >>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>>>>>>>>> www.appletothecore.info >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Jan 16, 2012, at 4:24 PM, Bill Holton wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Looks like this makes the Mac almost a no go for my work. I spend >>>>>>>>>>> a lot >>>>>>>>>> of time grabbing addresses and other contact info online and copying >>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>> into >>>>>>>>>> documents. >>>>>>>>>>> I am in DOM mode. If I interact with the text the VO Enter works, >>>>>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>>> all >>>>>>>>>> it will copy is the current element, word, link, etc. If I try to >>>>>>>>>> press >>>>>>>>> VO >>>>>>>>>> Enter anywhere else I get a beep and nothing. >>>>>>>>>>> Copying the entire page and editing would be about 5 times more >>>>>>>>>>> work than >>>>>>>>>> I can accomplish the same tasks with Windows. There really should >>>>>>>>>> be a >>>>>>>>> way >>>>>>>>>> to grab a few lines, elements, etc. from a web page and copy just >>>>>>>>>> them. >>>>>>>>>>> I actually thought that's what VO enter was for, but apparently it >>>>>>>>>>> won't >>>>>>>>>> help me at all. >>>>>>>>>>> Maybe there is something else I am missing? >>>>>>>>>>> Bill >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 4:04 PM >>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Selecting text in Safari >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hello Bill, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> This all seems to depend on the website. Selecting would appear to >>>>>>>>>>> work >>>>>>>>>> better in DOM mode than in Groups. >>>>>>>>>>> If Shift-Cmd-Right arrow doesn't highlight a chunk of text for you, >>>>>>>>>> remember that VO-Shift-c will copy the last spoken phrase to the >>>>>>>>> clipboard. >>>>>>>>>>> Also, you may find you need to interact with the text to be able to >>>>>>>>>> highlight it. >>>>>>>>>>> Failing that, Cmd-a will highlight the whole page, which you can >>>>>>>>>>> then >>>>>>>>> copy >>>>>>>>>> into a TextEdit document and edit from there. >>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Anne >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 16 Jan 2012, at 20:17, Bill Holton wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi. >>>>>>>>>>> As I understand it, there are a few ways to select text in Safari. >>>>>>>>>>> To >>>>>>>>> get >>>>>>>>>> a letter, word or line you hold down the shift key and then press >>>>>>>>>> arrow >>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>> character, option arrow for word and command arrow for the rest of >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> line. >>>>>>>>>>> To select a larger selection, you press VO enter and then move to >>>>>>>>>>> the end >>>>>>>>>> of your selection and press VO Enter again. >>>>>>>>>>> My problem is, neither of these seem to be working. I have cursor >>>>>>>>>> tracking turned on and I have tried both with quick Nav turned on >>>>>>>>>> and off. >>>>>>>>>> I'm sure the problem is between my chair and keyboard, but not sure >>>>>>>>>> what >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>> do different. 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