So I just tried it again, and apparently sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. I haven't found what makes it work and what makes it not work. I suspect it's the starting point, because when it's worked it's worked with the rotor in several different positions and with quick nav turned on. But one thing that seems to help is using the right and left arrow keys a few times back and forth before I try the shift down arrow. The first highlighted line takes a long time, but then it seems to go faster. And then sometimes it doesn't work at all. Very curious. .
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Matthew Campbell Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 3:24 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Selecting text in Safari Hi. I can't just up and down arrow in order to find stuff to start selecting and even if I do ad shift to that to select line by line, there is no selecting going on. A silly question. Are you using Lion or SnowLeopard? I'm using Lion. On 2012-01-17, at 2:14 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: > I guess I'm not following what you're looking for. I did a VO-command-h to jump to the heading and the VO-right a couple times to find the paragraph. Then I just shift-downarrow six times to select all the text. I could have continued down arrowing to pick up more stuff on the page, stuff I had not even interacted with. I'm not sure where the "interact[ing] with each element on a webpage" part comes in. I had to interact enough to find my starting point but that was about it. What is your expectation? > > CB > > On 1/17/12 1:20 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote: >> Hi. >> This still only works if you interact with each element on a webpage even with all of the cursors tracking each other. >> I'd be reporting this to Apple Accessibility. I know I already did several times. Maybe if they see enough requests, they'll add it. >> >> >> >> On 2012-01-17, at 12:34 PM, Bill Holton wrote: >> >>> Thanks. As mentioned, I figured problem was between keyboard and chair. I >>> thought I had the tracking set right. Let me try later today and see if I >>> can duplicate. >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 12:28 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: Selecting text in Safari >>> >>> I was able to do this on your test page just fine. Main thing was to be >>> sure cursor tracking was turned on with control-option-shift-F3. I then >>> went to your page: >>> >>> http://winit.womansworldmag.com/enter/drawing/4a606b5463a666f91cfc0aa8a80e30 >>> 5f0828351b >>> >>> and found the text starting with "Pandora's Charm...". From there I then >>> just did a dhift-down arrow until I selected the whole paragraph, >>> including the link. Then I hit command-c to copy and was able to go to >>> another app and paste it all. Until I turned on cursor tracking I wasn't >>> able to make it go. Used this Apple help page which described the >>> process and different ways to select the text: >>> >>> http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=VoiceOver/1.0/en/mh2089.html >>> >>> CB >>> >>> On 1/17/12 8:34 AM, Bill Holton wrote: >>>> The bits are larger than one phrase or bit. Unles there's a command to >>> add >>>> to clipboard instead of replacing it? >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] >>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker >>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 5:14 AM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: Selecting text in Safari >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> If all your doing is copying bits and pieces like that, why not do VO >>> shift >>>> C which is copy last phrase to clipboard. >>>> >>>> Ricardo Walker >>>> [email protected] >>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>>> www.appletothecore.info >>>> >>>> On Jan 16, 2012, at 4:24 PM, Bill Holton wrote: >>>> >>>>> Looks like this makes the Mac almost a no go for my work. I spend a lot >>>> of time grabbing addresses and other contact info online and copying it >>> into >>>> documents. >>>>> I am in DOM mode. If I interact with the text the VO Enter works, but >>> all >>>> it will copy is the current element, word, link, etc. If I try to press >>> VO >>>> Enter anywhere else I get a beep and nothing. >>>>> Copying the entire page and editing would be about 5 times more work than >>>> I can accomplish the same tasks with Windows. There really should be a >>> way >>>> to grab a few lines, elements, etc. from a web page and copy just them. >>>>> I actually thought that's what VO enter was for, but apparently it won't >>>> help me at all. >>>>> Maybe there is something else I am missing? >>>>> Bill >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: [email protected] >>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson >>>>> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 4:04 PM >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Subject: Re: Selecting text in Safari >>>>> >>>>> Hello Bill, >>>>> >>>>> This all seems to depend on the website. Selecting would appear to work >>>> better in DOM mode than in Groups. >>>>> If Shift-Cmd-Right arrow doesn't highlight a chunk of text for you, >>>> remember that VO-Shift-c will copy the last spoken phrase to the >>> clipboard. >>>>> Also, you may find you need to interact with the text to be able to >>>> highlight it. >>>>> Failing that, Cmd-a will highlight the whole page, which you can then >>> copy >>>> into a TextEdit document and edit from there. >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> Anne >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 16 Jan 2012, at 20:17, Bill Holton wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi. >>>>> As I understand it, there are a few ways to select text in Safari. To >>> get >>>> a letter, word or line you hold down the shift key and then press arrow >>> for >>>> character, option arrow for word and command arrow for the rest of the >>> line. >>>>> To select a larger selection, you press VO enter and then move to the end >>>> of your selection and press VO Enter again. >>>>> My problem is, neither of these seem to be working. I have cursor >>>> tracking turned on and I have tried both with quick Nav turned on and off. >>>> I'm sure the problem is between my chair and keyboard, but not sure what >>> to >>>> do different. 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