Hello Matthew and others, I still have problems selecting text on internet with google chrome or safari ( I think chrome is the same lay-out as safari since the html-lay-out is controlled by voiceover). I have tried: with cursor tracking on/off with quick nav on/off in line-mode (with quicknav on), I can't navigate by line until there is a link in the text. I was also thinking about vo+shift+s in combination with reading parragraphs or other reading commands... The command to read paragraphs control+option+p seems not to work on a website... so , this is not a way to copy a paragraph. About the website that was given with selection-tips in vo-1.0: there seems nothing relevant to me about more flexibility to select text in html-areas.
Pls again, some help should be appreciated. kind regards, William Windels Op 17-jan.-2012, om 22:25 heeft Matthew Campbell het volgende geschreven: > Hi. > All tracking is turned on. > It's really flaky it seems when you can and can't select stuff off webpages. > > On 2012-01-17, at 4:00 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: > >> Ahh, I'm no Snow Leopard on this machine. Someday I'll get with all the cool >> kids and upgrade. Just haven't got around to it yet. Maybe that's the >> difference. >> >> Ok, found another machine with Lion on it and pretty much the same thing. >> Once I had cursor tracking on I did VO-H to jump to the header, then >> VO-right a couple times to get to the paragraph, the plain old >> shift+downarrow to start selecting the lines of text. I don't have quick-nav >> turned on so my arrows are free for doing this. Hmmm. Just tried it again >> with quick-nav on and it worked there as well. Maybe there is some other >> setting I have turned on? You verified that you have cursor tracking turned >> on? Otherwise I'm stumped. >> >> CB >> >> On 1/17/12 3:23 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote: >>> Hi. >>> I can't just up and down arrow in order to find stuff to start selecting >>> and even if I do ad shift to that to select line by line, there is no >>> selecting going on. >>> A silly question. Are you using Lion or SnowLeopard? >>> I'm using Lion. >>> >>> On 2012-01-17, at 2:14 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: >>> >>>> I guess I'm not following what you're looking for. I did a VO-command-h to >>>> jump to the heading and the VO-right a couple times to find the paragraph. >>>> Then I just shift-downarrow six times to select all the text. I could have >>>> continued down arrowing to pick up more stuff on the page, stuff I had not >>>> even interacted with. I'm not sure where the "interact[ing] with each >>>> element on a webpage" part comes in. I had to interact enough to find my >>>> starting point but that was about it. What is your expectation? >>>> >>>> CB >>>> >>>> On 1/17/12 1:20 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote: >>>>> Hi. >>>>> This still only works if you interact with each element on a webpage even >>>>> with all of the cursors tracking each other. >>>>> I'd be reporting this to Apple Accessibility. I know I already did >>>>> several times. Maybe if they see enough requests, they'll add it. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 2012-01-17, at 12:34 PM, Bill Holton wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks. As mentioned, I figured problem was between keyboard and chair. >>>>>> I >>>>>> thought I had the tracking set right. Let me try later today and see if >>>>>> I >>>>>> can duplicate. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 12:28 PM >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Subject: Re: Selecting text in Safari >>>>>> >>>>>> I was able to do this on your test page just fine. Main thing was to be >>>>>> sure cursor tracking was turned on with control-option-shift-F3. I then >>>>>> went to your page: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://winit.womansworldmag.com/enter/drawing/4a606b5463a666f91cfc0aa8a80e30 >>>>>> 5f0828351b >>>>>> >>>>>> and found the text starting with "Pandora's Charm...". From there I then >>>>>> just did a dhift-down arrow until I selected the whole paragraph, >>>>>> including the link. Then I hit command-c to copy and was able to go to >>>>>> another app and paste it all. Until I turned on cursor tracking I wasn't >>>>>> able to make it go. Used this Apple help page which described the >>>>>> process and different ways to select the text: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=VoiceOver/1.0/en/mh2089.html >>>>>> >>>>>> CB >>>>>> >>>>>> On 1/17/12 8:34 AM, Bill Holton wrote: >>>>>>> The bits are larger than one phrase or bit. Unles there's a command to >>>>>> add >>>>>>> to clipboard instead of replacing it? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker >>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 5:14 AM >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Selecting text in Safari >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If all your doing is copying bits and pieces like that, why not do VO >>>>>> shift >>>>>>> C which is copy last phrase to clipboard. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ricardo Walker >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>>>>>> www.appletothecore.info >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jan 16, 2012, at 4:24 PM, Bill Holton wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Looks like this makes the Mac almost a no go for my work. I spend a >>>>>>>> lot >>>>>>> of time grabbing addresses and other contact info online and copying it >>>>>> into >>>>>>> documents. >>>>>>>> I am in DOM mode. If I interact with the text the VO Enter works, but >>>>>> all >>>>>>> it will copy is the current element, word, link, etc. If I try to press >>>>>> VO >>>>>>> Enter anywhere else I get a beep and nothing. >>>>>>>> Copying the entire page and editing would be about 5 times more work >>>>>>>> than >>>>>>> I can accomplish the same tasks with Windows. There really should be a >>>>>> way >>>>>>> to grab a few lines, elements, etc. from a web page and copy just them. >>>>>>>> I actually thought that's what VO enter was for, but apparently it >>>>>>>> won't >>>>>>> help me at all. >>>>>>>> Maybe there is something else I am missing? >>>>>>>> Bill >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson >>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 4:04 PM >>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Selecting text in Safari >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello Bill, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This all seems to depend on the website. Selecting would appear to work >>>>>>> better in DOM mode than in Groups. >>>>>>>> If Shift-Cmd-Right arrow doesn't highlight a chunk of text for you, >>>>>>> remember that VO-Shift-c will copy the last spoken phrase to the >>>>>> clipboard. >>>>>>>> Also, you may find you need to interact with the text to be able to >>>>>>> highlight it. >>>>>>>> Failing that, Cmd-a will highlight the whole page, which you can then >>>>>> copy >>>>>>> into a TextEdit document and edit from there. >>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Anne >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 16 Jan 2012, at 20:17, Bill Holton wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi. >>>>>>>> As I understand it, there are a few ways to select text in Safari. To >>>>>> get >>>>>>> a letter, word or line you hold down the shift key and then press arrow >>>>>> for >>>>>>> character, option arrow for word and command arrow for the rest of the >>>>>> line. >>>>>>>> To select a larger selection, you press VO enter and then move to the >>>>>>>> end >>>>>>> of your selection and press VO Enter again. >>>>>>>> My problem is, neither of these seem to be working. I have cursor >>>>>>> tracking turned on and I have tried both with quick Nav turned on and >>>>>>> off. >>>>>>> I'm sure the problem is between my chair and keyboard, but not sure what >>>>>> to >>>>>>> do different. 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