yes, I most certainly have. Remember, we are not talking lion, nor snow leopard 
here. We are speaking specifically 10.8 Mountain lion. also, remember, I first 
am not interacting with the message list table. I simply VO right arrow over to 
it, and then use my up and down arrow keys to move through the list of 
messages. I do not first interact. I do not look at each column of the message 
list table individually like some people do. I did try interacting however, 
just to see if it would work. It did not. there has got to be someway to expand 
that disclosure triangle, but I just cannot figure it out. restarting 
voiceover, did no good, neither did restarting mail. Furthermore, restarting my 
entire Mac did absolutely no good. I am quite sure that there should be a 
fairly easy solution to this problem, I just am drawing a mental blank on what 
that solution would be. Normally, I am extremely good with this type of stuff, 
however I must say, this time, I am completely baffled.


Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 31, 2012, at 9:49 PM, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote:

> I use right arrow just fine. I know this is basic, but have you tried a 
> restart? Maybe start with closing and re-opening mail?
> On Jul 31, 2012, at 9:43 PM, Chris Gilland <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> okay. Now, I feel incredibly humiliated, not to mention utterly embarrassed!
>> 
>> the very email thread that may have answered this question, I deleted 
>> thinking was completely irrelevant to me at the current time. I am currently 
>> using the Standard view of mail. I am 100% certain that I am not set to the 
>> classic view. I know exactly how to switch it however if I need to. I 
>> furthermore have disabled the option to Group related messages. usually, I 
>> do not interact with the message list table. I simply VO right Aero over to 
>> it, and then just use my up and down arrow keys to move through the list of 
>> messages. If I want to read an email, I didn't press VO J to jump to the 
>> message body and begin reading. excuse me. Siri totally messed that last 
>> sentence up. I was trying to say I then press VO J to jump to the body of 
>> the message and begin reading. got a love dictating on an iPhone! LOL! 
>> frankly, I'm lazy, and do not feel like going back and editing. Sorry. 
>> Anyway… I have conversation thread view enabled. whenever I see a thread 
>> that has multiple conversations with in it, say, two conversations, or more, 
>> I cannot for the life of me figure out how to expand the conversations. I 
>> have tried hitting just the right arrow key, VO right Aravind, pressing VO\, 
>> and more, to absolutely no avail. I haven't even gone so far as to press VO 
>> space on the email thinking that that would expand, however that also did 
>> absolutely no good. what is the best method for doing this. I love my 
>> conversation thread view! I used it on a very regular basis and lion. I 
>> never thought that I would see the day I would like using mail that way, but 
>> I actually swear by it! if there is a conversation thread that I do not wish 
>> to read, I can simply hit the delete key on the topmost node of the thread, 
>> and just like that: Bam! The whole thread is now gone. absolutely brilliant! 
>> As of now, I have disabled thread view until I can get a more concrete 
>> answer on the best method for doing this. I hope that this feature has not 
>> been broken in Mountain lion from a voiceover perspective. That would 
>> royally suck, if so.
>> 
>> again I am quite positive that this question has already been 
>> answered/addressed, however I was a stupid idiot and deleted the thread 
>> without first thinking that later it might be relevant to me. I feel like a 
>> total fool.
>> 
>> anyway, thank you for your help. I promise I will try to be more careful 
>> with my email in the future going forward.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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