I, too, use ML in standard view. I interact with the table, but I close mail so 
rarely that this is not a hastle. You mentioned disclosure triangles. Have you 
tried vo-backslash yet? It seems unnecessary since the right arrow should work, 
but it may help in the meantime.
On Jul 31, 2012, at 9:55 PM, Chris Gilland <[email protected]> wrote:

> yes, I most certainly have. Remember, we are not talking lion, nor snow 
> leopard here. We are speaking specifically 10.8 Mountain lion. also, 
> remember, I first am not interacting with the message list table. I simply VO 
> right arrow over to it, and then use my up and down arrow keys to move 
> through the list of messages. I do not first interact. I do not look at each 
> column of the message list table individually like some people do. I did try 
> interacting however, just to see if it would work. It did not. there has got 
> to be someway to expand that disclosure triangle, but I just cannot figure it 
> out. restarting voiceover, did no good, neither did restarting mail. 
> Furthermore, restarting my entire Mac did absolutely no good. I am quite sure 
> that there should be a fairly easy solution to this problem, I just am 
> drawing a mental blank on what that solution would be. Normally, I am 
> extremely good with this type of stuff, however I must say, this time, I am 
> completely baffled.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jul 31, 2012, at 9:49 PM, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> I use right arrow just fine. I know this is basic, but have you tried a 
>> restart? Maybe start with closing and re-opening mail?
>> On Jul 31, 2012, at 9:43 PM, Chris Gilland <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> okay. Now, I feel incredibly humiliated, not to mention utterly embarrassed!
>>> 
>>> the very email thread that may have answered this question, I deleted 
>>> thinking was completely irrelevant to me at the current time. I am 
>>> currently using the Standard view of mail. I am 100% certain that I am not 
>>> set to the classic view. I know exactly how to switch it however if I need 
>>> to. I furthermore have disabled the option to Group related messages. 
>>> usually, I do not interact with the message list table. I simply VO right 
>>> Aero over to it, and then just use my up and down arrow keys to move 
>>> through the list of messages. If I want to read an email, I didn't press VO 
>>> J to jump to the message body and begin reading. excuse me. Siri totally 
>>> messed that last sentence up. I was trying to say I then press VO J to jump 
>>> to the body of the message and begin reading. got a love dictating on an 
>>> iPhone! LOL! frankly, I'm lazy, and do not feel like going back and 
>>> editing. Sorry. Anyway… I have conversation thread view enabled. whenever I 
>>> see a thread that has multiple conversations with in it, say, two 
>>> conversations, or more, I cannot for the life of me figure out how to 
>>> expand the conversations. I have tried hitting just the right arrow key, VO 
>>> right Aravind, pressing VO\, and more, to absolutely no avail. I haven't 
>>> even gone so far as to press VO space on the email thinking that that would 
>>> expand, however that also did absolutely no good. what is the best method 
>>> for doing this. I love my conversation thread view! I used it on a very 
>>> regular basis and lion. I never thought that I would see the day I would 
>>> like using mail that way, but I actually swear by it! if there is a 
>>> conversation thread that I do not wish to read, I can simply hit the delete 
>>> key on the topmost node of the thread, and just like that: Bam! The whole 
>>> thread is now gone. absolutely brilliant! As of now, I have disabled thread 
>>> view until I can get a more concrete answer on the best method for doing 
>>> this. I hope that this feature has not been broken in Mountain lion from a 
>>> voiceover perspective. That would royally suck, if so.
>>> 
>>> again I am quite positive that this question has already been 
>>> answered/addressed, however I was a stupid idiot and deleted the thread 
>>> without first thinking that later it might be relevant to me. I feel like a 
>>> total fool.
>>> 
>>> anyway, thank you for your help. I promise I will try to be more careful 
>>> with my email in the future going forward.
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> 
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