What and where is the zoom button?
On Aug 1, 2012, at 1:49 AM, Lisette Wesseling <[email protected]> 
wrote:

> Have you tried pressing the zoom button?
> On 1/08/2012, at 2:12 PM, Chris Gilland <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> as I stated in my initial message, yes. I have tried this as well. I have 
>> tried VO\, right arrow, VO right arrow, the oh space I have literally tried 
>> everything. Nothing seems to be doing the trick. Even closing and reopening 
>> mail, restarting voiceover, and even going as far as to restart my entire 
>> MacBook nothing is working.
>> 
>> thanks, Chris.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jul 31, 2012, at 10:07 PM, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> I, too, use ML in standard view. I interact with the table, but I close 
>>> mail so rarely that this is not a hastle. You mentioned disclosure 
>>> triangles. Have you tried vo-backslash yet? It seems unnecessary since the 
>>> right arrow should work, but it may help in the meantime.
>>> On Jul 31, 2012, at 9:55 PM, Chris Gilland <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> yes, I most certainly have. Remember, we are not talking lion, nor snow 
>>>> leopard here. We are speaking specifically 10.8 Mountain lion. also, 
>>>> remember, I first am not interacting with the message list table. I simply 
>>>> VO right arrow over to it, and then use my up and down arrow keys to move 
>>>> through the list of messages. I do not first interact. I do not look at 
>>>> each column of the message list table individually like some people do. I 
>>>> did try interacting however, just to see if it would work. It did not. 
>>>> there has got to be someway to expand that disclosure triangle, but I just 
>>>> cannot figure it out. restarting voiceover, did no good, neither did 
>>>> restarting mail. Furthermore, restarting my entire Mac did absolutely no 
>>>> good. I am quite sure that there should be a fairly easy solution to this 
>>>> problem, I just am drawing a mental blank on what that solution would be. 
>>>> Normally, I am extremely good with this type of stuff, however I must say, 
>>>> this time, I am completely baffled.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On Jul 31, 2012, at 9:49 PM, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I use right arrow just fine. I know this is basic, but have you tried a 
>>>>> restart? Maybe start with closing and re-opening mail?
>>>>> On Jul 31, 2012, at 9:43 PM, Chris Gilland <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> okay. Now, I feel incredibly humiliated, not to mention utterly 
>>>>>> embarrassed!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> the very email thread that may have answered this question, I deleted 
>>>>>> thinking was completely irrelevant to me at the current time. I am 
>>>>>> currently using the Standard view of mail. I am 100% certain that I am 
>>>>>> not set to the classic view. I know exactly how to switch it however if 
>>>>>> I need to. I furthermore have disabled the option to Group related 
>>>>>> messages. usually, I do not interact with the message list table. I 
>>>>>> simply VO right Aero over to it, and then just use my up and down arrow 
>>>>>> keys to move through the list of messages. If I want to read an email, I 
>>>>>> didn't press VO J to jump to the message body and begin reading. excuse 
>>>>>> me. Siri totally messed that last sentence up. I was trying to say I 
>>>>>> then press VO J to jump to the body of the message and begin reading. 
>>>>>> got a love dictating on an iPhone! LOL! frankly, I'm lazy, and do not 
>>>>>> feel like going back and editing. Sorry. Anyway… I have conversation 
>>>>>> thread view enabled. whenever I see a thread that has multiple 
>>>>>> conversations with in it, say, two conversations, or more, I cannot for 
>>>>>> the life of me figure out how to expand the conversations. I have tried 
>>>>>> hitting just the right arrow key, VO right Aravind, pressing VO\, and 
>>>>>> more, to absolutely no avail. I haven't even gone so far as to press VO 
>>>>>> space on the email thinking that that would expand, however that also 
>>>>>> did absolutely no good. what is the best method for doing this. I love 
>>>>>> my conversation thread view! I used it on a very regular basis and lion. 
>>>>>> I never thought that I would see the day I would like using mail that 
>>>>>> way, but I actually swear by it! if there is a conversation thread that 
>>>>>> I do not wish to read, I can simply hit the delete key on the topmost 
>>>>>> node of the thread, and just like that: Bam! The whole thread is now 
>>>>>> gone. absolutely brilliant! As of now, I have disabled thread view until 
>>>>>> I can get a more concrete answer on the best method for doing this. I 
>>>>>> hope that this feature has not been broken in Mountain lion from a 
>>>>>> voiceover perspective. That would royally suck, if so.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> again I am quite positive that this question has already been 
>>>>>> answered/addressed, however I was a stupid idiot and deleted the thread 
>>>>>> without first thinking that later it might be relevant to me. I feel 
>>>>>> like a total fool.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> anyway, thank you for your help. I promise I will try to be more careful 
>>>>>> with my email in the future going forward.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Chris.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Have a great day,
>>>>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
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